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post #1 of 65 (permalink) Old 05-02-2007, 01:46 PM Thread Starter
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Fuel Additives? what is the best?

Just wonder what is the best to use?

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I use "Lucas" Upper Cylinder Lubricant. It has Injector cleaner and a fuel conditioner in it. I pick it up at Flying J and add 16 Oz every other tank of fuel. Others will chime in with their favorite brand I am sure... Pick what you want and what makes sense to you... We use this in all our work trucks (read this as 5 PSD in 3 areas of the country) I am not sure if it really helps, but I can say this.. the sea foam Filter change made no difference in how the truck ran so this stuff must work all by itself. I put 7000 to 10,000 a month on my truck so we go through a bunch of this stuff.

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i run the Diesel Kleen gray bottle in mine and I picked up about 1MPG
and it smokes less.

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I like Stanadyne Performance formula, blue label.

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Re: Fuel Additives? what is the best?

Another vote for Stanadyne Performance Formula [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Re: Fuel Additives? what is the best?

Alot of good ones out there in the market now.
But I'm partial to lubecontrols---> FP60 and the New FP3000.
Also Use Diesel Treat--->Schaeffers.

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Look here I won't ever use power service again.

Also....http://www.[another diesel site called [tdg]].com/forums/showthread.php?t=36024
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Look here I won't ever use power service again.

Also....http://www.[another diesel site called [tdg]].com/forums/showthread.php?t=36024

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The info has been removed so what did it say and what made it so bad.

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Re: Fuel Additives? what is the best?

You'll find that Stanadyne's Performance Formula Diesel Fuel Additive is designed for our injectors and fully approved by Ford and Navistar. I've used it since the 90's and have never had a lubricity problem on my older 7.3L IDI Engines that NEED more lubricity than our PSDs. When other diesel trucks were having problems in minus 25 degree F weather a few months ago high in the Rockies my 7.3L PSD had none. I normally put only 2 oz in at every fill-up except when the weather is below freezing when I put 4 oz in my 29 gal tank. It is a lot cheaper than putting in 2 cycle oil which is not formulated to keep your injectors clean.

Click on the Stanadyne's Performance Formula Diesel Fuel Additive URL I put in the first line of my reply above and after reading what it has to say your decision will be easy.
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Look here I won't ever use power service again.

Also....http://www.[another diesel site called [tdg]].com/forums/showthread.php?t=36024

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The info has been removed so what did it say and what made it so bad.

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In a nutshell Diesel kleen (as well as most of the addatives) contain mineral spirits, xylene, and naptha none of which are lubricants. If anything these addatives barely meet the same HFRR rating as ultra low sulfur diesel, but certainly do not add any lubrication. Maybe they are good to clean the fuel system or to add cetane, but not to increase lubrication.

Mopar1973Man claims that Power Service requested that the information about there product be removed or they were going to follow up with a law-suit (look at the post on the Deisel Gerage...the link is on this page ). Bottom line is that Power Service didn't like what they saw and did not make any effort to dispute the info...they just simply flexed their muscles.

Basically the only addatives that claim not to be solvents are lucas and howes...stanadyne does not claim to have any lubricants (not sure about their lubricicity formula however). I've been running 2 cycle oil in my fuel for about 10K now.

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Stanadyne Performance Formula all the way!
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I get my Stanadyne Performance Blue Label from these guys; even with shipping 2 cases, they are cheaper than anywhere else that I've found:

http://www.stanadyne.com/new/ppt/ppt...p?dealerID=114

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I use the 2 old standby's, Marvel Mystery yOil and Sea Foam. I run Marvel oil for 5 tanks and then one tank with the sea foam. Marvel is a great lubricant, but I am not so sure about how well it cleans the fuel system. That's why on the sixth tank I run Sea Foam - I know it cleans very well.

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This is from the other site.

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Howes is good... It contains mineral oil for a lubricant. But Standyne don't contain any lubricants.

We are after lubricants more that a certane booster... Very few (I mean very few) products are even concerned about lubricants in there products. I don't mean to comply with 520 HFRR I mean to exceed it by head towards 200-300 HFRR which none of these products can or will do because of EPA regulations. So it up to us to homebrew our own solutions.
Marvel Mystery Oil is basically Naptha, Mineral Spirits, and Clorinated Hydrocarbons.

Be your own judge.

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I thought you could just run canola oil - just put some in?


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