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Torque converter capacity........

I was planing to drain/drop transmission pan, drain converter, replace filter and fill with Amsoil torque-drive ATF (not universal, thanks to this forum) I believe just the pan will require 8 quarts, but how much more for the torque converter? This stuff is expensive. Also, someone should speak with Amsoil about suggesting Universal ATF (mercon v) for our trucks on their website.

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Re: Torque converter capacity........

Go to the FAQ section and get a step by step ATF change. It takes 20 qts to do a complete flush and you don't have to drain anything and can be done by yourself. Then use the fluid of your choice.

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Re: Torque converter capacity........

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Also, someone should speak with Amsoil about suggesting Universal ATF (mercon v) for our trucks on their website.

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Several people have. Apparantly AMSOIL knows more about the trans than Ford does. At least they think so. They are not going to change thier recommendation because they know they are right. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: Torque converter capacity........

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I believe just the pan will require 8 quarts, but how much more for the torque converter?

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The pan holds about 6.5 quarts. The torque converter holds another 4 quarts or so. The internal operating and cooling passages in the tranny holds another coupla quarts. And the coolers and cooler lines holds another coupla quarts. Almost 18 quarts total.

If you drain the pan and converter, then you'll change only about 60 percent of the ATF. Not acceptable.

If you use 20 quarts of new ATF and follow the procedures in the FAQ, then you'll do a good job flushing out almost all the old ATF and replacing it with fresh new ATF. Click here.





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Re: Torque converter capacity........

Gentlemen,
I know the proper flush is the best way to go, I was hoping to take a short cut. I always thought tranny filters needed to be changed, but of the few I've changed over the years I really don't remember finding anything in them, the only fine deposits I've seen have been in the bottom of the pans. To ensure the life of the tranny and so I will not lose any sleep I will be buying 20 qts and following the flush procedure. (i may take the pan down just to clean). I just wonder, with all PSD's going down the road every day how many get any tranny service not to mention the right service. So, thank you guys for your help.

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Re: Torque converter capacity........

If you drop the pan and change the filter and drain the converter you will need about 15 quarts. There is only about a pint in your lines and cooler.

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Re: Torque converter capacity........

You are exactly right....I dropped/cleaned the pan and drained the TC, took almost 16 qts........I am glad I did, got all that nasty fuzzy stuff off the magnet........ Last night I had a nightmare about the magnet in the rearend, that will be taken care of tomorrow. Any suggestions?........HP

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Any suggestions?........HP

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Yes, buy a cover gasket. It's much easier than using that other nasty stuff.

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Re: Torque converter capacity........

if you have the factory oil pan it holds 17 quarts maximum DO NOT OVER FILL, DO NOT USE MERCON V use dextron 3/mercon if you use 5 you will develope slippage in the tranny.

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if you have the factory oil pan it holds 17 quarts maximum DO NOT OVER FILL,

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If you use the flush method in the FAQ section you need 20 qts.

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Re: Torque converter capacity........

I went with the drain and clean option......I had a company car a couple of years ago that had the tranny flush at jippy lube and shortly afterward developed terminal tranny destruction....I was told flushing that dirty fluid thru the tranny may have been the cause....I know the flush procedure on this site is different than that machine used at the jerky lube places........I just feel more comfortable with new filter, amsoil torque-drive fluid, draining TC, and cleaning the magnet.....I also got the chance to look at what has collected in the pan after 57,000 miles.....I feel the same about the rear end.....Cleaned out and replaced with amsoil gear lube.....I have found working on this truck is easier than I thought, everything is bigger and easier to get at.......Thanks Guys for the advice, and the rear gasket idea would of been nice, well next time.....

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I believe just the pan will require 8 quarts, but how much more for the torque converter?

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The pan holds about 6.5 quarts. The torque converter holds another 4 quarts or so. The internal operating and cooling passages in the tranny holds another coupla quarts. And the coolers and cooler lines holds another coupla quarts. Almost 18 quarts total.
My ATF level has been at the MAX level on the dipstick "honeycombs" ever since I performed the "Flush" method DIY using the prescribed quantity of ATF.

I just reached 15,000 miles so I drained the pan and it was 6.5 quarts.

I replaced with the same quantity of 6.5 quarts and the level on the dipstick is at the identical MAX marking. Not surprising.

I am not concerned about it but just wondering if you guys fill by quantity (6.5 qts) or by dipstick level in your DIY practices?

TFT operating temp typically 170*-180* when checking dipstick.


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Dang arctic bringing it back from the dead lol

Smokeywren hasn't had a presence in years.

I too have experienced the same thing. 8 quarts is to much.

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Dang arctic bringing it back from the dead lol

Smokeywren hasn't had a presence in years.

I too have experienced the same thing. 8 quarts is to much.
No kidding...I have created a zombie thread.

I thought there had been a more recent post on trans pan capacity by RT but I couldm't find


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I did mine by dipstick level, fwiw
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