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dieselturbo 01-21-2010 05:10 PM

Transfer case fluid change,differentials oil change
 
2000 excursion 7.3 4wd.automatic. what fluid/additives and how much for changing tranfer case oil. also what oil / additives for diffs..do they take regular 80-90 wt and posi additive.also how much. thanks:icon_wink:

TousleyParts 01-21-2010 06:01 PM

the T-case takes regular old Mercon III, about 3-4 quarts

XY-90-GL in the front (SAE 90) in the front, 3.8 pints

XY-75W140-QL (synthetic)in the rear 6.5-6.9 pints, plus 2 XL-3 4oz modifiers in the rear in you have a limited slip

Sorry for the pints-its how my book lists fluids

SmokeyWren 01-22-2010 10:41 AM

Transfer case: 2 quarts Motorcraft Transfer Case Fluid.

Rear axle: 6.9 pints 75w140 synthetic. Pay attention: that's SYNTHETIC gear lube.

Front axle: Your Owner's Guide calls for 3.8 pints 75w90 synthetic axle lube. The latest workshop manual published in 2003 for 2000 Excursion says SAE 90 Premium Rear Axle Lubricant.

The current quick reference chart for differential lube used by Ford techs is at:
Motorcraft quick reference chart for axle lubes

Since the quick reference chart is current, it may be different than old printed manuals from several years ago. I can't read upside down, so I've learned to print out the chart and then I can read it.

Transfer case lube changed a few years ago. Your Owner's Guide says to use MERCON, but MERCON is no longer available, and you cannot use MERCON V. So you have to use the new stuff Ford developed specifically for transfer cases - Mortorcraft Transfer Case fluid: http://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricant...smission Fluid




Roadrunter 01-22-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyWren (Post 1844954)
Transfer case: 2 quarts MERCON V ATF

Rear axle: 6.9 pints 75w140 synthetic. Pay attention: that's SYNTHETIC gear lube.

Front axle: Your Owner's Guide calls for 3.8 pints 75w90 synthetic axle lube. The latest workshop manual published in 2003 for 2000 Excursion says SAE 90 Premium Rear Axle Lubricant.

They don't make a 75-140 that's not synthetic. And you don't need Mercon V ATF or SAE 90 (Ford just consolidated their fluids). Use Mercon III and 75-90 synthetic.

dieselturbo 01-22-2010 04:17 PM

i have synthetic 90wt.. good for front .. but looked at mercon V atf at store . it says on back "not for use in transfer case".. have to find some 75w140 syn.. is all 75w140 synthetic??

Roadrunter 01-22-2010 04:26 PM

All 75-140 will be syn. Try the Royal Purple. You don't need to add the friction modifier because it's already in it at the perfect amount.

catch&release 01-23-2010 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselturbo (Post 1845115)
but looked at mercon V atf at store . it says on back "not for use in transfer case".

I have Mobil 1 ATF in my manual transmission and transfer case.

TousleyParts 01-23-2010 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselturbo (Post 1845115)
looked at mercon V atf at store . it says on back "not for use in transfer case"

Thats a new one to me. Some Merc V must not work with the clutch packs in some of the T-cases out there.:confused:

Any type of Merc III will work. Thats what it comes from the factory with:)

litterfisher 08-02-2010 04:36 PM

I've gone through 2 T Cases on this thing and its a pain to find non destroyed refurbished ones

klhansen 08-02-2010 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselturbo (Post 1845115)
but looked at mercon V atf at store . it says on back "not for use in transfer case"

What brand oil was it? The t-case in my older trucks used 90 Wt gear oil, but this one says ATF. My first change I used Mobil 1 ATF which was listed as Mercon. On the second change, the Mobil 1 ATF was now rated Mercon V, which is what I used.

Ford recently came out with "Transfer Case Fluid" see: Transfer Case Fluid, but I haven't been able to figure out exactly what it is. It's called for in the latest Superdutys starting in the '08 models, but if you look at your owner's manual, it will call for Mercon ATF in your t-case. Mercon V should be just fine. Ford says that Mercon V is OK for use in units that call for Mercon. MERCONŽ V Automatic Transmission and Power Steering Fluid

BTW, there never was Mercon III, but I believe plain ol Mercon was 'double branded' as Dexron III, which probably leads to confusion.

SmokeyWren 08-02-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klhansen (Post 1932034)
Ford says that Mercon V is OK for use in units that call for Mercon. MERCONŽ V Automatic Transmission and Power Steering Fluid

Kevin, read that again and you'll see it says "Do not use ... in transfer cases."

So you can use the old MERCON but not the current MERCON V in transfer cases. Since the old MERCON is no longer available from legitimate manufacturers, use the new transfer case stuff. It's made of "PETROLEUM DISTILLATES
HYDROTREATED HEAVY PARAFFINIC LUBRICATING OILS (PETROLEUM). The Ford spec is ESP-M2C166-H. I don't know how to find the details of a Ford spec, but I'll bet you do. ;)

BTW, I found about about MERCON V not being useable in transfer cases a few weeks ago, but this old thread was before that. So notice I edited my earlier reply.




BubbaZ71Tahoe 08-02-2010 10:14 PM

I wonder why.. I've always just put atf in my transfer cases... alot of guys I know in the offroad world do the same.

lance1955 08-02-2010 10:46 PM

Smokeys right my manual calls for mercon (and they dont make it any more) and Ive been running mobile syn atf since 1st service. And have been ever since. No problems. But I service it every year. Overkill I guess, but a lot cheaper than a used new one if you get my drift :)

SmokeyWren 08-02-2010 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubbaZ71Tahoe (Post 1932173)
I wonder why.. I've always just put atf in my transfer cases... alot of guys I know in the offroad world do the same.

Ford stopped the manufacturing of MERCON ATF by anybody a few years ago. MERCON ATF was fine in transfer cases, power steering pumps, automagic trannies, and the ZF manual trannies. MERCON V replaced MERCON for use in automatic trannies, but it's not good for transfer cases. So Ford had to come up with another lube for the transfer cases.




SmokeyWren 08-02-2010 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lance1955 (Post 1932183)
... Ive been running mobile syn atf since 1st service. And have been ever since. No problems.

ExxonMobile changed Mobil 1 ATF to MERCON V about the same time Ford stopped the manufacture of MERCON. So if you buy fresh Mobil 1 ATF and read the label carefully, you'll see it's now MERCON V. It's fine for use in our 4R100 trannies, but not in our transfer cases.





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