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Type of Battery?

I have a '99 F250 SD crew cab 4x4 with 7.3L (295K miles). I'm getting ready to replace the batteries for the first time since buying it a year ago. I use this truck to tow a camper and it becomes my DD when i do. I have couple of questions.

1) How many cranking amps?

2) Heard alot about AGM battreries - is it worth the added expense?

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AGM is the way to go. They handle vibration much better than conventional plate batteries. In my truck, backhoe, and rig, they all last about double the time a conventional battery does. I think the min crank amps for this truck is 850, but I always get the most crank amps I can get. THese 7.3 motors are beasts and take a lot of crank power. Get as much as you can. I use the Optima Red tops. Very expensive, but great warranty and they last forever.

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Although I agree that AGM batteries are in a top class not shared by the best of lead acid batteries, I don’t think they are the best battery in all applications.

Other factors include how long the owner intends to keep their truck, the type of driving the owner does and how much money the owner has in their wallet.

OP, if you have the money for AGM then they are going to give you 5+ years of service and minimal maintenance during that time.

Lead-acid will give you between 3-5 years with proper maintenance.


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I'll go the other way and say that AGM batteries are not worth the extra expense.

I have been running normal wet cells in my truck since it was new and am only on my third set counting the factory ones. I don't baby my truck and bounce it around in the hills and dirt roads of Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, and Arizona every years and have never had a problem.

Get a couple of good group 64 batteries and put them in. Then take the extra money that you would of spent on the AGM's and do some other maintenance on it.

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This was "discussed" quite recently.
Do a search. It's like asking what oil to run.

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I have ran both and had no problems with either one. AGM means you don't have to check cell water level, or worry about freezing, My lead acid ones last 5-6 years but it is cold up here which is a lot easier on Batterys. Get at least 850 CCA is key. Look out for the Odyssey CCA level, they came up with PHCA (pulse current cranking amps), makes the battery look like they have the most power. Dig a bit and you will find the true CCA of the battery.
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The normal batteries last about three years. I finally got tired of being stranded somewhere and not being able to get to work once every three years or so; so I bought the ODYSSEY Extreme Series Battery Model 65-PC1750T the last time. They cost over $600 for the set of two. So far, they have been great.

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Get a couple of good group 64 batteries and put them in. Then take the extra money that you would of spent on the AGM's and do some other maintenance on it.
Our truck actually take Group 65 batteries (you probably fat-fingered it ). Go with 850 CCA or greater.
I've also been running standard lead-acid batteries since the truck was new. Latest are Interstates bought thru Costco. I also get 5-6 years from a set, but as Denny said, the cold weather helps with life. Heat is what kills batteries.

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Our truck actually take Group 65 batteries (you probably fat-fingered it ). Go with 850 CCA or greater.
I've also been running standard lead-acid batteries since the truck was new. Latest are Interstates bought thru Costco. I also get 5-6 years from a set, but as Denny said, the cold weather helps with life. Heat is what kills batteries.
I need to start proof reading my post I guess. Yes, group 65 batteries.

As for the life of them and if you don't drive your vehicle very much or on short trips get a battery tender that will keep a full charge on them when you are not driving the truck. I have a tender on mine and it keeps the batteries right up to snuff and ready to go when I need my truck.

I figure that I can extend the life of the batteries a couple of years by using them.

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My truck is on its 3rd set of motorcraft batteries, no complaints here for an 18 year old truck.

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Our truck actually take Group 65 batteries (you probably fat-fingered it [IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/TheDieselStop_2015/smilies/tango_face_wink.png[/IMG]). Go with 850 CCA or greater.
I've also been running standard lead-acid batteries since the truck was new. Latest are Interstates bought thru Costco. I also get 5-6 years from a set, but as Denny said, the cold weather helps with life. Heat is what kills batteries.
I need to start proof reading my post I guess. Yes, group 65 batteries.

As for the life of them and if you don't drive your vehicle very much or on short trips get a battery tender that will keep a full charge on them when you are not driving the truck. I have a tender on mine and it keeps the batteries right up to snuff and ready to go when I need my truck.

I figure that I can extend the life of the batteries a couple of years by using them.
My vehicles sit in storage for months at a time. I used to use battery maintainers but with trucks, cars, motorcycles, quads and tractors, it gets expensive so I just disconnect my cables, top up with the 6-amp charger and they still hold 12.6v or better 10 weeks later. I will even take those stored outside in the hot summer into my shop to save them the hot temps.

I have read some battery maintainers can shorten the life of a battery. Not sure the specifics.

I have a couple AGM Optima Yellow Tops that are almost 10 years old. The NOCO charger I have says they are at 75% fully charged. Still 12.6-13.1v but maybe that means CA?
I now have one in my CRV since the little 4-cylinder doesn’t require much.


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I had a optima yellow top on my dump trailer for 10 years that did a great job left outside all winter and no problems. Just replaced it this year. The small 12 volt Odyssey battery in my plane has special charging instructions. If it is discharged it is to be charged with a 10 or more amp charge first before any trickle charge. If you do run AGM it might be worth getting a good charging instruction from the manufacture other than use approved charger. One of the other members runs Odyssey's and he loves them.
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Thanks to all that responded. I ended up with two 850 cca regular batteries. I opted for those instead of the AGM simply because I knew I would probably sell the truck within 3 years to upgrade. The cost difference was only $30-$40 per battery though so not as much as i thought would be.

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Thanks to all that responded. I ended up with two 850 cca regular batteries. I opted for those instead of the AGM simply because I knew I would probably sell the truck within 3 years to upgrade. The cost difference was only $30-$40 per battery though so not as much as i thought would be.

Thanks again to all for the help.
You either found a great deal on AGMs or paid an awful lot for lead-acid... 😉


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You either found a great deal on AGMs or paid an awful lot for lead-acid... 😉

2nd that. Just picked up a couple lead acid Interstates with a 6 year warranty for $95 each from Costco.

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