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ATS Ported Shroud Compressor Housing

Just wanted to see if anyone had any personal experience with this compressor housing. I know its a good inch larger and also helps reduce surge.

http://www.itpdiesel.com/store.php?c...on=show_detail

Its quite costly but if it helps (id probably do it along with a WW) then it may be a good investment.
The other question is that I read a few things online about it in combination with the WW was not as good as it with a stock wheel? Any insight would be great!
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Re: ATS Ported Shroud Compressor Housing

From what I have read the ww works great but the housing does better. If you have both it might have too much noise.

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I had both the WW and the ATS housing and it whistled pretty good [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. The stock wheel from what i heard moves more air then the WW but the WW makes a nicer whistle sound. The combo solved my surging issues but eventually i upgraded to bigger injectors and turbo for more power that i desperately needed [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

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The ATS housing is a permanent design to eliminate surge. The WW is actually LESS efficient than a stock wheel, so it will cure most surge because it doesn't move as much air, and it moves the surge point, but it doesn't cure surge. With a WW you can still get surge, but with an ATS housing there will be no more. I am running a WW and ATS with a 1.15 turbo and love the whistle, its damn near ear piercing from 10psi up. I can only build 23ish lbs of boost with my "somewhat" extensive mods, and i do know that the WW reduces about 2-3 pounds of boost. I have had enough of the whistle, but can still tolerate it. Im making the trip to Lead Hill pretty soon and even at 5psi the turbo is all you can hear going down the road at 80mph. Next time i have my turbo off, i am going to put the stock wheel back in to regain my lost flow, so i can compare the differences.

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Re: ATS Ported Shroud Compressor Housing

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From what I have read the ww works great but the housing does better. If you have both it might have too much noise.

[/ QUOTE ] IS THERE ANYSUCH THING AS TOO MUCH NOISE??? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
I have the WW and ATS on a van turbo. I LOVE it. I can not compare to a stock wheel and the ATS housing. However if I am loosing anything with the WW, it am sure it is EXTREMELY NEGLIGABLE,,, Not enough to bother me.
I like the sound,,
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I can only build 23ish lbs of boost with my "somewhat" extensive mods, and i do know that the WW reduces about 2-3 pounds of boost.

[/ QUOTE ] - Hmmmmmm [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] that's interesting. My old X with over 170k miles on the odo easily will make at least 27-28 lbs. of boost and I'm just running the Edge Evolution programmer with my mild mods including the WW/ATS Housing combo. I think it may make a little more. I do have the TurboMaster waste gate controller and have adjusted it to open at 25 lbs. of boost so as to prolong the life of my turbo. What are you using for a waste gate controller? Do you have any leaks? I did not lose any boost. I've got video clips showing how ridiculously fast my boost goes up to 25 lbs. - like seconds [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

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his bigger turbine housing reduces boost too

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Re: ATS Ported Shroud Compressor Housing

Thanks for all of the responses. Just to clarify and be sure of this were all taking about the compressor housing right?
Seen here:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72...lethousing.gif

I just wanted to ask becuase im aware of upgraded exhaust sides as well. The price seems a bit much for a compressor housing but then again if its going to do the job right then its worth it. Now im getting mixed feelings about the WW, not that its going to be bad but its probably better to just save the money.

I do love the turbo spool, what can I say im a turbo person... I own multiple turbo eclipses so yea. Id love more spool but what im after is an overall well rounded turbo.

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Re: ATS Ported Shroud Compressor Housing

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I can only build 23ish lbs of boost with my "somewhat" extensive mods, and i do know that the WW reduces about 2-3 pounds of boost.

[/ QUOTE ] - Hmmmmmm [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] that's interesting. My old X with over 170k miles on the odo easily will make at least 27-28 lbs. of boost and I'm just running the Edge Evolution programmer with my mild mods including the WW/ATS Housing combo. I think it may make a little more. I do have the TurboMaster waste gate controller and have adjusted it to open at 25 lbs. of boost so as to prolong the life of my turbo. What are you using for a waste gate controller? Do you have any leaks? I did not lose any boost. I've got video clips showing how ridiculously fast my boost goes up to 25 lbs. - like seconds [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

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I have both the ATS Housing and the WW. Although I do agree the WW is not as efficient as the stock housing. I have zero problem hitting 30 lbs of boost in a heartbeat. If I really peg it I have seen 31 or 31 lbs. I have only the stock wastegate actuator.
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Thanks for all of the responses. Just to clarify and be sure of this were all taking about the compressor housing right?
Seen here:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72...lethousing.gif

I just wanted to ask becuase im aware of upgraded exhaust sides as well. The price seems a bit much for a compressor housing but then again if its going to do the job right then its worth it. Now im getting mixed feelings about the WW, not that its going to be bad but its probably better to just save the money.

I do love the turbo spool, what can I say im a turbo person... I own multiple turbo eclipses so yea. Id love more spool but what im after is an overall well rounded turbo.

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Yep, thats the one were all talking about. Although I am not an ATS fan AT ALL. Their housing is top notch. It will do what it is designed to do, and that is eliminate surge. My vote, do the ATS housing and forget the WW. Unless you just want to hear tons of whistle ALL the dang time. I think there is still a sound clip in my signature somewhere with ATS Housing and WW. You could always hold out just a bit longer and get an aftermarket turbo...
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Thanks! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I have had the ATS housing and the WW for over 100k and I hit 28lbs of boost with my DP on 80Econo every time I WOT. Yes, it makes alot of screamin' noise, so when I pass those Dodge Rammers, they hear me go by. Like has been said, if the WW added to the ATS pushes less air flow, then it's not that much, and I don't mind. Just make sure you get it balanced, and if you have over 75k, just get the whole turbo rebuilt and balanced with the added ATS and WW from Dennis at ITPDiesel and no more worries.

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See what I dont understand, and correct me if im off track is this...

From my experience with turbos if you take one apart internally and or change the wheel you NEED to get it rebalanced. I dont follow how one can just replace the wheel with a WW unit and such. Ive been toying with turbo cars for years and this is how its always been especially considering the speeds turbos spin at.

I know tons of people on here do it regurally and seem to have no problems but im a little skeptic. As far as the ATS housing I know that this doesnt factor in since its just the housing. I also know of an ATS turbo unit that I could replace my stocker with, I believe its the .83 version not the 1.00 version maybe I should look into this over rebuilding my stocker. (which by the way is fine to date)

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How is the spool up and throttle response with the ATS housing?

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ww and ATS housing

The ATS housing is a cure for surge when you add a chip to your truck and you tow up hills.

The original WW did the same thing, but didnt always work.

So I dont consider them performance items.

The WWII will add power and eliminate surge.

If you are trying to cure surge you can try a ww or you can get an ATS housing.

If you want more performace out of your stock turbo get a WWII (and no surge). I would add a turbomaster also.

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