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post #16 of 28 (permalink) Old 12-05-2006, 07:38 PM
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First, Jody should be your first source of info on this. Second, I tow 8-10k regularly with the 80 tow. All I have is a set of gauges and an empty cat. I have towed over 15k but the trailer kept me from going over 60mph, not the engine. As for the differences between a tow tune and an econo tune, I remember hearing that the tow tune builds power at lower rpms for help in towing; the econo tune built its power at higher rpms where it's better for higher rpm cruising.

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Easy Boy's. I didn't say these were fixed in stone. I am just repeating what has been posted on here before as a guideline. I also said as long as your EGT's stay under 1250 you can tow in the 300HP blow your mind tune, but you better watch your EGT gauge, otherwise why have it?

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LOL 40hp for 10k loads LOL I use my 140 for 20k loads 500 miles a week pulling that load for 144k miles on that truck on the 140 pos

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I believe you have uncovered the truth about the tow setting on the chip. The tow setting is used to sell more chips and not much else. There is a lot of hype with chip vs programmer and this is one of them. What is the purpose of the tow setting if you still have to watch your gauges????

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It's always a good idea to watch your gauges. The lower settings are there to make it easier to keep the EGTs in check (or more difficult to get them too high, rather), and the "tow" designation has different shifting characteristics.

The programmer (generic variety of which I believe you're referring to) has multiple settings for the same reason (but with no change in shifting).

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LOL 40hp for 10k loads LOL I use my 140 for 20k loads 500 miles a week pulling that load for 144k miles on that truck on the 140 pos

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I believe you have uncovered the truth about the tow setting on the chip. The tow setting is used to sell more chips and not much else. There is a lot of hype with chip vs programmer and this is one of them. What is the purpose of the tow setting if you still have to watch your gauges????

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It's always a good idea to watch your gauges. The lower settings are there to make it easier to keep the EGTs in check (or more difficult to get them too high, rather), and the "tow" designation has different shifting characteristics.

The programmer (generic variety of which I believe you're referring to) has multiple settings for the same reason (but with no change in shifting).

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Apparently Ford does not think that it is a good idea to watch your gauges or they would have include some real gauges in the truck. If you have to buy, install, and watch the gauges with a 40hp TOW mode then why bother?

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I would install guages even in a stock truck, especially with an auto. I blew my first tranny out of my auto when it was stock with a 18K hay trailer behind it. If I had gauges I would have known it was getting hot and saved myself $500 for a tranny install. On my 6-spd. even in stock with a big load I can get my egt's up to 1250 with a big trailer up a big hill.

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I agree about needing gauges on a stock truck.

My EGT's ran hotter (hottest ever) when my truck was bone stock (with gauges) than it did bone stock except using a Superchip Micro Tuner running the 80hp mode. I easily could hit 1350F pre-turbo towing as delivered from the factory. With the SCMT-80 it was maxing out at about 1250F full throttle with the same load.

I'm still not completely sure why. I suppose higher ICP helped efficiency and maybe better tranny programming.

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Apparently Ford does not think that it is a good idea to watch your gauges or they would have include some real gauges in the truck. If you have to buy, install, and watch the gauges with a 40hp TOW mode then why bother?

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If you actually agreed with that statement, your truck would be bone stock.

The answer to your question: 40 extra HP and better shifting to name a couple of reasons, not to mention the ability to switch tunes on the fly to see which fits your current towing needs and driving style.

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If you actually agreed with that statement, your truck would be bone stock.

The answer to your question: 40 extra HP and better shifting to name a couple of reasons, not to mention the ability to switch tunes on the fly to see which fits your current towing needs and driving style.

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I never watch the gauges when running empty. When towing "heavy" on max setting I do watch the gauges. My question here is why bother with 40TOW setting and watching the gauges when you can tow at 80-120 and watch the gauges. What is the different?

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If you actually agreed with that statement, your truck would be bone stock.

The answer to your question: 40 extra HP and better shifting to name a couple of reasons, not to mention the ability to switch tunes on the fly to see which fits your current towing needs and driving style.

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I never watch the gauges when running empty. When towing "heavy" on max setting I do watch the gauges. My question here is why bother with 40TOW setting and watching the gauges when you can tow at 80-120 and watch the gauges. What is the different?

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i tow between 20 - 26k lbs gcw with my 40tow in my 99 and i can still get to 1250* pretty easy. If memory serves i get roughly about 20lbs max boost with the 40tow with the wastegate hooked up.

with stock exhaust and no programming i could get 1300* max EGTs on a long pull.

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i tow between 20 - 26k lbs gcw with my 40tow in my 99 and i can still get to 1250* pretty easy. If memory serves i get roughly about 20lbs max boost with the 40tow with the wastegate hooked up.

with stock exhaust and no programming i could get 1300* max EGTs on a long pull.

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This is exactly my point. When you are pulling max GCW do you want to take your eyes off the road and watch the gauges?? If I'm going to watch the gauges then I set it on max setting, otherwise I put it in stock position and watch the road instead. Your motor is not going to burn up in stock setting towing within the GCW, your tranny is another story though.

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how do we get ahold of Jody to get a personally programmed chip?????

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