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Hi I had recently picked up a TS 6 position chip from a friend it has a default code NVK4, will it work in my early 99 pcm XLE4
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My first thought would be not likely to work but have you attempted reaching out to the company?


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I have not yet I just got the chip today. I’ll have to try giving them a call tomorrow
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Both are automatics so it should work.

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Ok I’ll plug it in as long as I’m not going to hurt anything
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Ok I’ll plug it in as long as I’m not going to hurt anything
Technically, it will physically plug in but these codes are written to make sometimes minor adjustments to fuel mapping. How are you going to determine if the codes are working optimally for your truck?

I bought a 7.3 a year ago with an old SuperChip. It will work on both 4R100 and ZF-6 transmissions in all 7.3s.

Its a very crude device but it does work and does increase performance in all three trucks I plugged it in.

2000 with 4R100
2002 with 4R100
2002 with ZF-6

But it does not work nearly as well as codes written specific to each truck.

I am no expert on these things but thats why I would call the manufacturer.


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Ok I thank every one for the advice. I think I’m going to start with calling the manufacture it will save me a headache and time.
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Don't expect much from the manufacture or programmer.

Unless they kept all their records on what tunes it has on it they won't be able to tell you very much except that it is perhaps one of their tunes. Also once it leaves their hands others can reprogram it to whatever they want it to be.

Just follow the direction on cleaning the contacts and installing it, then run it and see if it is what you want. The big thing to remember is to keep the keys to the truck out of the truck when installing it. There have been a number of people lately that have lost their PCM's by playing around with it with the key on and power to the PCM.

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But wouldn’t a programmer be the best authority to say whether a chip for a NVK4 is compatible with an early-99 XLE4 ?

Not specifically the tunes.

If it made no difference then why do they even request you differentiate your code when ordering? I think the one size fits all like my SuperChip ended back around 2003.

Maybe I am wrong but hopefully you or someone can explain why I am wrong. Thanks


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Ok thank you I’ll have to put it in come next weekend I work out of town during the week but I’ll have to let you all know how it runs. Thanks again everyone!
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But wouldn’t a programmer be the best authority to say whether a chip for a NVK4 is compatible with an early-99 XLE4 ?

Not specifically the tunes.

If it made no difference then why do they even request you differentiate your code when ordering? I think the one size fits all like my SuperChip ended back around 2003.

Maybe I am wrong but hopefully you or someone can explain why I am wrong. Thanks
The main thing that they are looking for anymore is if it is a automatic or a 5/6 speed. If you look you can find generic Tony Wildman burns out there for a couple hundred bucks vs a custom burned chip for 3-4 hundred.

Also you never know once it is out of the ones that burnt it what tune is actually on it. The generic ones will change shift points and fuel delivery mostly. But they will do it across the board as far as what the chip will work in.

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I think the one size fits all like my SuperChip ended back around 2003.
The main thing that they are looking for anymore is if it is a automatic or a 5/6 speed. If you look you can find generic Tony Wildman burns out there for a couple hundred bucks vs a custom burned chip for 3-4 hundred.

Also you never know once it is out of the ones that burnt it what tune is actually on it. The generic ones will change shift points and fuel delivery mostly. But they will do it across the board as far as what the chip will work in.
Heck, my SuperChip sounds as good as these generic ones then and I can swap it between my ZF-6 and 4R100.

Funny thing is that SuperChip made a very noticeable improvement on my 2000 with 4R100 but seems to have minimal benefit on my 2002 with 4R100.

I hope the OP will let us know what he learns.

Come to think of it, I bought a DP-Tuner off the Classifieds here a couple years ago and Jody said I would need to send it in to get it rewritten since my PCM Code was different from the one it was programmed for.

it turned into a big pricey headache because I was going to have to pay an extra surcharge on top of the rewritten codes, some sort of penalty to dissuade DP-Tuners having much value on the second hand market.

I ate the purchase of that used DP and will sure be disappointed if what you say is true and it would have worked just fine!

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I hope more guys that know about tunes and chips will respond to the OP.

This is an interesting topic I don’t recall reading much about on the forum.


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It comes down to generic tunes or custom tunes. If you want the generic tunes you can get them on the cheap, custom tunes will cost you a little.

Also on the custom tunes you can set up the switch positions where you want them. No start, high idle, street, tow, race, along with a bunch of others. And you can change them on the fly. Try that with the Superchip.

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The superchips unit is actually pretty good. The first two tunes have good shifting and good power without egt issues.

Ya I’ve heard the story about re-burns before arctic driver. The only company that does Reburns for TS chips that is reliable is SDK. Tony Wildman has been out of the game for a long time for personal reasons.

Honestly, i would spend 300$ on the php hydra and it comes with the custom tunes for your pcm codeS

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