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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 10-14-2019, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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Want more power for towing

Except for a MAC 4" intake, and an unknown brand 4" exhaust, and some BFGoodrich All Terrain TA tires in the rear, my 2wd
2001 F-350 CC LB DRW truck is stock. The truck has 160k miles on it. Except for having to replace one injector last year, the engine runs great and the transmission operates smoothly.

I do get pretty bad turbo surge at low rpm/high load, especially the bottom of 3rd at 45mph. At least since my father bought it at 30k, the truck has only towed heavy weight a couple of times. I now have a 30' 9500 gvrw bumper pull travel trailer, and will be towing it for a cross country move in a couple months. So it is now time to cure the turbo surge, and boost power output of the engine.

Basic plan for upgrades:
Gauges: EGT, Trans Temp, boost, fuel pressure
Turbo: GTP38R
Tuner/Chip: not sure, leaning Hydra?
Injectors: Best I can get with stock HPOP/fuel delivery system...looking at Swamps 175cc or Casserly Stage 2 180cc
6.0L Trans cooler
Possibly an exhaust brake...
Retain stock transmission/torque converter

Basically, I just want more get up and go off the line while towing the trailer cross country, get rid of turbo surge, and still retain reliability, without blowing up my transmission. I have always driven this truck conservatively, especially while towing. A BTS transmission is a bit out of my budget at this time. The exhaust brake is pushing my budget, but if effective for the price, would make me feel better about stopping this heavy trailer.

As for the turbo, I happened to see some people saying they still got turbo surge without replacing the wheel. So advice on which wheel to run would be great.

Injectors, what is the general thoughts on the CC options I'm looking for? Should I go bigger/smaller?

Hydra seems to be best choice for chips?

Any advice on best exhaust brake/is it worth it?

Also just any general thoughts on my overall plan?

Thanks!
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Adding big HP to a high mile truck is asking for more work, 80 HP is night and day when you are towing. Gauges/tranny cooler are a great ideal. I would consider just getting a wicked wheel for the turbo and a programer. Do not change injectors if you don't need to. A 80-100 hp tow program makes a world of difference. I tow a 12,000 lb 5th wheel, My last truck ran the Rockys and all Alaska hills with no problems on stock injectors/80 hp tow/and a H2E turbo. I am not a big fan of the rebuilt/high flow injectors. Do the low buck mods first you may find that is all you need and you will not tear up your tranny as fast. Unless you tow every day I don't think a exhaust brake is worth it with a auto tranny. Maybe one of the EBV mods with tranny lockup but I would do a search on that to see how the tranny holds up.
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Adding big HP to a high mile truck is asking for more work, 80 HP is night and day when you are towing. Gauges/tranny cooler are a great ideal. I would consider just getting a wicked wheel for the turbo and a programer. Do not change injectors if you don't need to. A 80-100 hp tow program makes a world of difference. I tow a 12,000 lb 5th wheel, My last truck ran the Rockys and all Alaska hills with no problems on stock injectors/80 hp tow/and a H2E turbo. I am not a big fan of the rebuilt/high flow injectors. Do the low buck mods first you may find that is all you need and you will not tear up your tranny as fast. Unless you tow every day I don't think a exhaust brake is worth it with a auto tranny. Maybe one of the EBV mods with tranny lockup but I would do a search on that to see how the tranny holds up.
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I am fine with leaving the stock injectors, I'm not looking for mega power. But I definitely do want to upgrade the turbo, the YouTube videos I have seen of the GTP38R lack of lag has me sold. But I also want to never worry about turbo surge ever again either. That is my primary goal for sure.
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The cheapest and easiest surge fix is an old style wicked wheel and can be done in your driveway by you if you have basic skills and tools. Hydra is a good choice for a chip with tunes and yes to gages and larger trans cooler.

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My truck is a six speed so it reacts differently to chips and tuners. I installed a billet wheel and it cured my compressor surge when towing my 11,500# 5th wheel. I also have the Hydra chip and love it. I tried the 65hp tow setting but my egt's would climb right through 1300 on the long climbs out here NV/CA/UT/AZ so eventually settled on the 25hp towing mode. I can use the 40hp but on the big hills have to drop it down to the 25hp. This is what's so good about the Hydra, switch on the fly and can choose 15 different settings. When not towing I run the 75hp daily driver most of the time.
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