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leave the needle bearign in they rarely are a problem and a pain to replace, greace your bearings they should be fine, if your inner seal doesnt leak leave it, takign the carrier out is whole other job. Use Mobil 1 syn grease.

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leave the needle bearign in they rarely are a problem and a pain to replace, greace your bearings they should be fine, if your inner seal doesnt leak leave it, takign the carrier out is whole other job. Use Mobil 1 syn grease.
Excellent, thanks. I was thinkin of cheapin out and just doing the u-joints and dustseals, but it sounds like that's how I should try and go. Hopefully the ball joints are ok too.

The only thing I'm stuck on is the adaptor that goes between the slidehammer and the spindle. I wonder if that's a regular tool, or something I have to make?

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The spindle puller adapter should be available at most chain stores. I rented mine at a local Kragens, might be Checker or Shucks in your area.

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I checked 3 autozone's around here, the only thing they're good for is the slidehammer. Does the socket below look like the right one for my truck? they also have the spindle puller tool. Anyone know the size of the wheel bearing nut?

Tool 4-Lug Spindle Socket
Performance Tool 4-Lug Spindle Socket — 1/2in. Drive, Model# | Ball Joint, Bearing + Gear Repair | Northern Tool + Equipment


Front Spindle Puller, Model# 10208
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...2146_200392146

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2004, @32k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, Michlelin's, waterpump
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2011, @86k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, trany fluid
2012, @94k mi. Bilsteins, stainless brakelines, fuelbowl, lift pump, waterpump, steering lines, coolant filter
2012, @98k mi. Starter, positive cables, batteries
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those look right, the hub socket is the larger of two sizes available, that should be the right one. you may or may not need the spindle pulling, you can use a soft faced dead-blow hammer to knock teh spindle side to side to get it out, however, if its stuck good then the spindle tool is the best thing going, it may save you an hour of swearing adn busted knuckles or it may stay in the package, who knows.
PS I own 2 now as I lost the first one in the shop one day and bought a new one for another job

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I did not need the spindle puller but like I said earlier start with Pep boys for your hub socket. The one that worked for me dose not look like the one in your link but they could be diferent. My plan of action was to buy many different sockets to keep from running back and forth to the store - I live out of town and would waste a lot of time running around loking for sockets.

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I was looking back at the site where I ordered the spindle nut wrench, and they used the same picture for the 4 prong as the 6 prong. So I'm hoping they send the right one. The one I ordered was the kd 3246. (lots of axle nut tools here) > Axle Nut Sockets

I'll try pep boys if it's wrong. I know I'm getting OCD here, but here's my list.



Still need:
anti-sieze
gear lube (weight?)
friction reducer for gear lube
spindle studs?
zerk plugs?
punch to drive out caliper sliders?
high temp grease - Mobil 1 syn grease
beer
rolling diaphragm seals, National and Chicago Rawhide?
lock washers

Already purchased:
u-joints Dana Spicer SPL55-4X (greaseable)
axle nut wrench and spindle puller tool.
(4) 1.75's of scotch = about 154 beers


Thanks for the help

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2004, @32k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, Michlelin's, waterpump
2010, @76k mi. Ball joints, u-joints, rotors
2011, @86k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, trany fluid
2012, @94k mi. Bilsteins, stainless brakelines, fuelbowl, lift pump, waterpump, steering lines, coolant filter
2012, @98k mi. Starter, positive cables, batteries
2013, @104kmi 3"downpipe, Michlelin's, steering damper, rotors, rear diff oil
2014, @115kmi. Injector o-rings, alternator rebuild

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well if the list is like food ingredients and is in order by volume or % ,,, then i think BEER should be closer to the top of the list.

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The beer is for my friends at the marina where I'm doing the job(s). I allready have (4) 1.75's of Scotch for myself and friends.

As soon as the boat goes in the water, I'm taking a week off and doing numerous maintenance jobs, too long to list.

I'll have to adjust my list.

1996 F-350 XLT 4x4, e4od, Electronic-rustproofing, Viper alarm
2004, @32k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, Michlelin's, waterpump
2010, @76k mi. Ball joints, u-joints, rotors
2011, @86k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, trany fluid
2012, @94k mi. Bilsteins, stainless brakelines, fuelbowl, lift pump, waterpump, steering lines, coolant filter
2012, @98k mi. Starter, positive cables, batteries
2013, @104kmi 3"downpipe, Michlelin's, steering damper, rotors, rear diff oil
2014, @115kmi. Injector o-rings, alternator rebuild
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I tried that spindle nut socket and it is the right one! It's a Performance tool # w83010 (I think the KD 3246 is the same?) and the spindle puller is 10208. The Spicer ds u-733 u-joints look beefier than the ones on the truck, I hope they fit. I bought the Helms manuals too, had I known how good they were, Id'a bought them sooner.. ($98.00). Do you have to put friction modifier in the front axle? the guy at ford said it isn't limited slip. He said the rear is tho.

1996 F-350 XLT 4x4, e4od, Electronic-rustproofing, Viper alarm
2004, @32k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, Michlelin's, waterpump
2010, @76k mi. Ball joints, u-joints, rotors
2011, @86k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, trany fluid
2012, @94k mi. Bilsteins, stainless brakelines, fuelbowl, lift pump, waterpump, steering lines, coolant filter
2012, @98k mi. Starter, positive cables, batteries
2013, @104kmi 3"downpipe, Michlelin's, steering damper, rotors, rear diff oil
2014, @115kmi. Injector o-rings, alternator rebuild

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Hopefully, just one last question. I know Nit said use Mobil 1 synthetic grease. Will I need to thoroughly remove all the old grease so as to not have 2 incompatible greases that might not mix? In that case, Will I need to remove the seal from the back of the hubs to get at the bearings to clean them? or leave the grease seals alone and some how flush the old grease out? same with the locking hubs and spindle bearings, they need to be all cleaned out right? I'd like to use the same grease in all those parts, and the u-joints too if that's possible. thanks.. Dan

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2004, @32k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, Michlelin's, waterpump
2010, @76k mi. Ball joints, u-joints, rotors
2011, @86k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, trany fluid
2012, @94k mi. Bilsteins, stainless brakelines, fuelbowl, lift pump, waterpump, steering lines, coolant filter
2012, @98k mi. Starter, positive cables, batteries
2013, @104kmi 3"downpipe, Michlelin's, steering damper, rotors, rear diff oil
2014, @115kmi. Injector o-rings, alternator rebuild
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you should be replacing the seals too, however you can get them out and put them back in, remove the nut, etc so your at the point you can slide the hub off, then with the hub in place put back on one washer adn one nut loosely, now grab teh disc adn pull it towards you and down, like a slide hammer , the washer will catch on the inner bearing adn pop the seal straight out. At this point you can auctually re-use the seal. You are better off to wash out the bearigns and re-pack them now, useing syn grease it should be the last tiem you do it. You may have to re-grease the hubs in a couple of years.

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Thanks Nit! I really appreciate the help. Tomorrow I hope to actually do this job, or at least start it.

1996 F-350 XLT 4x4, e4od, Electronic-rustproofing, Viper alarm
2004, @32k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, Michlelin's, waterpump
2010, @76k mi. Ball joints, u-joints, rotors
2011, @86k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, trany fluid
2012, @94k mi. Bilsteins, stainless brakelines, fuelbowl, lift pump, waterpump, steering lines, coolant filter
2012, @98k mi. Starter, positive cables, batteries
2013, @104kmi 3"downpipe, Michlelin's, steering damper, rotors, rear diff oil
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bout time too, I could have flown out there and done it before you got ready, however even beign Canadian I ain't stupid enough to come to New York in winter, the west coast is really quite warm if not wet.
Glad to see you've got all your stuff ready, it should be a cake walk with this much prep.
Good Luck.

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yea I know, I'm OCD.. I'm finally on vacation and ready to get started today, of course I had to have one more glitch before starting, had to get a root canal yesterday, at least I have plenty of pain management supplies on hand..

1996 F-350 XLT 4x4, e4od, Electronic-rustproofing, Viper alarm
2004, @32k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, Michlelin's, waterpump
2010, @76k mi. Ball joints, u-joints, rotors
2011, @86k mi. glowplugs, drag-link, trany fluid
2012, @94k mi. Bilsteins, stainless brakelines, fuelbowl, lift pump, waterpump, steering lines, coolant filter
2012, @98k mi. Starter, positive cables, batteries
2013, @104kmi 3"downpipe, Michlelin's, steering damper, rotors, rear diff oil
2014, @115kmi. Injector o-rings, alternator rebuild
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