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How to source a new vacuum resevoir/canister?

My vacuum reservoir, the metal can thing on the driver's side fender area, seems to be leaking... I have looked everywhere and nowhere seems to have this part listed. Anyone know where to get one? Or a part number? Being steel these tend to rot... can't believe they don't make a replacement...

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They do - it's just not steel. Browse the JYs; any vacuum reservoir from any make/model will work - especially those with the same number of nipples as your truck's. The plastic dual-chamber version was used at least from '87-03, so they're very common:


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The single-chamber version is slightly less-common, but still easy to find.


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If you really want a steel one...


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Why not make your own out of a couple of fittings and an old ammo can? Or fittings and pretty much any kind of container that would stand up to the use?

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I made one with PVC pipe and end caps.
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Use thread adapters, and you even have a place to hook up the hoses

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Use thread adapters, and you even have a place to hook up the hoses


How big of a pipe? Like sewer abs pipe?

Not sure how to put in the thread adapter, or even what it is... end caps make sense but how do you add nipples that don't leak?

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Will this part work? Can't see a size anywhere, but it's from a gasser ford


https://www.oemfordpart.com/oem-part...oir-d5tz9e453a

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How big of a pipe? Like sewer abs pipe?

Not sure how to put in the thread adapter, or even what it is... end caps make sense but how do you add nipples that don't leak?
Drill a slightly undersized hole into the pipe cap. Probably best to do this after you have glued on the cap. And in the area where the cap and pipe overlap and are glued. That way you have double the thickness of plastic.


Screw the brass fitting into the hole. It will make it's own threads into the plastic.


Remove the fitting, coat the threads with silicone adhesive. Re-install the fitting. Let cure completely.


Done.


This works for making reservoirs for pressure up to several hundred pounds. It certainly should hold up to the less than 30 pounds of vacuum our systems must produce.

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Will this part work?
As I said: ANY vacuum reservoir will work. But that's an insane price for a part that's likely to fail again the same way.


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This works for making reservoirs for pressure up to several hundred pounds. It certainly should hold up to the less than 30 pounds of vacuum our systems must produce.


Science Nerd Alert. 30 pounds of vacuum feels like a typical American measuring unit. Like bullet velocity per square degrees Fahrenheit. Anyway, -30 (ok -29.92) inches of mercury is an absolute vacuum which is equivalent to -14.7 psi. In metric, that would be 0 torr (mmHg)


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In the long run I think that I would make one out of PVC, but then I like doing that kind of stuff.

Other than that it looks like it is junkyard raiding time.

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My vacuum reservoir, the metal can thing on the driver's side fender area, seems to be leaking... I have looked everywhere and nowhere seems to have this part listed. Anyone know where to get one? Or a part number? Being steel these tend to rot... can't believe they don't make a replacement...
https://www.fordpartsprime.com/ has a lot of hard to find, vintage and 'discontinued' OEM Ford parts. Check them out. I like buying on their site because their prices are cheaper than dealer.
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This works for making reservoirs for pressure up to several hundred pounds.
DO NOT use plastic pipe of any kind for a pressure reservoir, especially several hundred psi. The energy stored in the compressed air would be dangerously released if the plastic were to rupture. Even plastic shrapnel can kill you.

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DO NOT use plastic pipe of any kind for a pressure reservoir, especially several hundred psi. The energy stored in the compressed air would be dangerously released if the plastic were to rupture. Even plastic shrapnel can kill you.
Plastic pipe within the parameters of its design ratings is perfectly safe to use. I would definitely NOT put several hundred psi on it, but for 20 to 25 inches HG,vacuum (lack of pressure) I don't see any trouble. If there were a problem that it couldn't stand it, it would simply collapse, or implode. Either way, I don't see a safety concern there, nor do I see a piece of schedule 40 pipe having any trouble at all.
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DO NOT use plastic pipe of any kind for a pressure reservoir, especially several hundred psi. The energy stored in the compressed air would be dangerously released if the plastic were to rupture. Even plastic shrapnel can kill you.
I'll give you the shrapnel point. I wouldn't want to be around if it exploded.


But... PVC pipe is rated for it.


Read the pipe the next time you are in lowes or home depot.



Or just read these...


PVC Schedule 40 Pressure/DWV Pipe | Heritage Plastics | PVC Conduit | Electrical and Plumbing


https://www.aetnaplastics.com/site_m...Dimensions.pdf

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