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I found a new one onluine, but i dont know if its a good quality one or not. Did anyone ever deal with this place before?
FOR FORD TRUCK 7.3L STARTER ALTERNATOR - FORD PICKUP TRUCK F-SERIES
Also is the auto and manual starter the same, the one bozo at the parts store told me they were differnent, thanks

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auto and manual are the same.

there's the mitsubishi or the nippondenso.

1994 FORD PICKUP 7.3L NEW STARTER M8T50171, M8T50172 - FORD F SERIES TRUCKS 7.3L dsl (1993-2003) mitsu

1985-1994 FORD PICKUP 7.3L NIPPONDENSO STARTER 16658 - FORD F SERIES TRUCKS 7.3L dsl (1993-2003) denso

both are fine starters, both gear reduction. the denso was used on heavy equipment (e.g. by CASE as per the listing above) and is considered the "heavy duty" unit

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I have a gear reduction mitsu starter and it works just fine starts the truck even when the wife forgets to plug in the truck. The denso has a larger solenoid and that might be a pain to install. I would recommend that you also replace the positive battery cable so you know it is in good shape Napa Is the only place I found that still carries it.

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I have the Denso and it worked great even when my batteries were pathetic, and the solenoid's orientation makes it no big deal. I would personally go with a Denso, but there's no reason not to use the Mitsu.

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the mitsu solenoid is on the top how is the denso's orientated? When i bought my mitsu it was brand new not a rebuilt unit so I paid a lil extra for new.

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I'm not sure, it's too dark to go take a picture of my oily starter. But I can tell you it fits

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ordered the denso $147 totall, not too bad compared to napa or advanced.

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I got a NEW starter from 'dbelectrical' on eBay for about $120 shipped. It's been perfect for 8 months and counting- it cranks a lot faster than my old one ever did. I took a chance because I didn't trust a big-box rebuild, and it seems to have paid off.

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2 cans break cleaner and a rebuilt kit and any shop with a spot welder you can rebuild them your self, usually a good tear down and rebuild solves most problems, cleaning the brush guides and honing the brushes flat again and cleaning the commutater with the right undercut of the mica, clean lubricate the gears and bendex.

As for electrical take apart and wire brush and clean, re-assemble then cover in dialectic grease, and all the signal lines I replaced with 10awg marine rated wire, crimped and soldered then heat shrunk with the double walled glued heat shrink. takes allot of work but the next time you'll work on the starting system will be ruffely never.

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The problem is getting decent parts. At work I rebuilt everything from the 30+ lb. 24V Delco (Cummins 335) starters on down, but nowdays looking all over the net all I could find for my Ford was DB Electric and a couple others that appeared to have nothing but "overseas" brushes, brgs, solenoids, etc. I gave up, went to the local auto/electric and he rebuilt mine with top quality components in a couple hours for only $104.

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well i got the new one in, and the truck starts like a champ. the old one must have been going out for a while

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probably true. also the denso starter is a monster. mine would keep starting my truck even when my batteries were long past the point when I should have replaced them. Maybe it's just set up for a lower voltage.

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