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Question Buying a F250 or a F350 - Please Help!

In the process of buying an F350 Platinum for towing a 5th wheel. My understanding is the only difference between the F250 & F350 is the rear springs. To save money, can I get the F250 Platinum and have upgraded springs to the rear. If you, what kind of spring should I get... Thanks
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The only major difference is real men drive a F350!!! At one time (99-2001) range even the springs were the same. I would not bother changing springs just add air bags. Depending on your 5th wheel you may have problems with bed side clearance!! This would mean you need to drop to F250 rear axle blocks, or lower. I have lowered the rear of the 3 F350 trucks I have owned for better towing. Does a F250 have the GVWR to pull the 5th wheel you have/want? Do you mind running over weight? Resale better with a F350. No right or wrong just things to think about.
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Get a dually. More stable than a SRW and if a tire does go down you won't lose control. My Toy Hauler has a GVWR of 16,500 so to me it's a no brainer.
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I agree, ran SRW for 15 years and did fine, was also a daily driver that had to park at hospitals in the middle of the day even with SRW it was a pain. Having said that last year I got my first DRW F350, WOW I did not expect it to be that much of a change. It rides better empty and I have NO sway with the 5th wheel. I retired so not going to hospitals anymore. If you don't have a lot of parking issues a DRW is nice.
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Is the price difference really that much?
At one time, there was only a $600 difference.

I do agree with the DRW comments.

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Look at the GVWR differences. If your going to pull a heavy fifth wheel, the king pin weight might put you over the limit. It's an ongoing discussion on the RV forums, and yes there are states that are starting to weigh us. If your caught over gross you. An be forced to unhook right there and pay impound fees until you come back with a truck rated for the load

Springs/air bags/ shocks do NOTHING for the payload rating. Get into an accident, even not your fault and see what happens when the other parties lawyer finds out your over weight. In the end it's your choice.
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In the process of buying an F350 Platinum for towing a 5th wheel. My understanding is the only difference between the F250 & F350 is the rear springs. To save money, can I get the F250 Platinum and have upgraded springs to the rear. If you, what kind of spring should I get... Thanks
I have a F250 and my friend and coworker has a F350, they are both lariat 4x4 he tows a 5th wheel. The trucks have the same tow capacity, the differences are these. The 350 has the longer bed, it is also already set up for the 5th wheel meaning holes are already in bed. It also already has the 7 pin in the bed by bed light switch. My 250 doesn't have any of this. I am not sure about the springs or if you can get a 250 already set up like a 350.

If you are getting it for the main purpose of towing your 5th I would get the F350 already set up. I think someone already mentioned it but with the longer bed you have more swing for your 5th wheel.
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Look at the ford build page, It appears that the tailgate hight is now the same between the two. I would check this out at a dealer to make sure. Weight rating for the F350 looks like it is close to 3,000 lbs more with a 4.10 axle. I am pretty sure you can get a tow package and long bed in a F250.
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Look at the ford build page, It appears that the tailgate hight is now the same between the two. I would check this out at a dealer to make sure. Weight rating for the F350 looks like it is close to 3,000 lbs more with a 4.10 axle. I am pretty sure you can get a tow package and long bed in a F250.
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our trucks are identical except for length, even tailgates. they are side by side every day here at work. and I believe you are correct you can get a long bed in F250, I have the tow package but it does not include the holes already cut and plugged or the 2nd pin n bed. Not sure if that is another option for a 5th wheel tow package.
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What Chuckster57 and DENNY said. I foolishly ordered my 2000 F250 in July 1999 with all the available F350 heavy duty spring, shocks, and brakes. So, my badge says F250, my truck rides and pulls like an F350. The BIG difference is that legally, you can tow more with the F350 than the F250 regardless of what's under the badge. If I were to have a do-over, I'd just order the F350 and be done with it. Now, as for a dually or not, I couldn't justify a dually in 99% of what I towed at the time, so it was a no-brainer. Now that I have a 33ft Travel Trailer, I'm thinking that dually would sure come in handy with the weight that I'm pulling.

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You can get the same options on any truck, but there are differences between F250/F350 SRW. Rear springs are different, rear axle is different.
The F350 Dually is where real changes happen.
Long bed only, rear axle is a tad different, rear brakes are a tad different, rear springs are different.

Long story short, trucks are badged different for a reason.
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You can get the same options on any truck, but there are differences between F250/F350 SRW. Rear springs are different, rear axle is different.
The F350 Dually is where real changes happen.
Long bed only, rear axle is a tad different, rear brakes are a tad different, rear springs are different.

Long story short, trucks are badged different for a reason.
the tow capacity of the F250 and the F350 are the same. It is payload that is different. See attached.

one thing we did learn today is that the F350 has a 3" receiver and the F250 has a 2 1/2"
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the tow capacity of the F250 and the F350 are the same. It is payload that is different. See attached.

one thing we did learn today is that the F350 has a 3" receiver and the F250 has a 2 1/2"
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What do you mean by tow capacity?
GVWR or GCWR?


Tow capacity works with both of these numbers.
There is "towing" and there is "hauling".


The ratings are not the same.
The GVWR and GCWR is based on final gear ratio, options, spring selection, wheel size etc.


Maybe spend some time on fleet.ford.com and look at that info.

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What do you mean by tow capacity?
GVWR or GCWR?


Tow capacity works with both of these numbers.
There is "towing" and there is "hauling".


The ratings are not the same.
The GVWR and GCWR is based on final gear ratio, options, spring selection, wheel size etc.


Maybe spend some time on fleet.ford.com and look at that info.
Where do you think I got those numbers. it was an apples to apples comparison mr. attitude. with same gears towing is the same only payload (what you can carry in your bed) changes with springs.
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Where do you think I got those numbers. it was an apples to apples comparison mr. attitude. with same gears towing is the same only payload (what you can carry in your bed) changes with springs.
LOL. Mr Attitude. That is funny.

I guess if speaking actual numbers makes me have an "attitude", then I have one.

You still didn't answer my questions.

So you are saying GCWR is the same between a F250 and F350?
By stating "what you can carry in your bed" is the only thing that changes, which has to do with GVWR, then you are saying the GCWR of a F250 and F350 are the same?

I would love to see you post up a spec from Ford that says that.

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