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Does oil life monitor know what oil is used?

Does the oil life monitor assume you're using full synthetic?
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If it does, it is really intelligent. I don't see how unless there is an input for it somewhere. And there isn't, that I know of. Curious to see other responses though.

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Absolutely has no way of knowing. It is an algorithm that takes into account the various parameters (idle time, driving time, number of drive cycles, etc. ) and compares it to a baseline based on tests using the recommended oils.


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Think about it.....they are now putting 4G cell units into the vehicles. You think it for your wi-fi use only??

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The only reason to use synthetic oils is because it's a better oil. I only run synthetic oil in all my cars. I have 5 Fords. The oil monitor only calculates oil life but not if the truck is losing oil. You used to be able to go to the Sync site and do a vehicle and find out how much oil life you had in your truck but they stopped that (sad) Now we have to wait till the truck tells us to change the oil. Which is what I do.

I used to use Mobile 1 and had great luck with so it made me a believer. It's expensive to use synthetic in the truck but since I spent so much money just to have a diesel i want all the protection I can get.
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Does the oil life monitor assume you're using full synthetic?

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So,... would it be plausible that the oil change interval be extended if one IS using synthetic?
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Sooooo waiting for people to arrive so some pontification is in order. If it had a program to account for synthetic oil I would say it would extend the oil change interval, HOWEVER, you may have now have another program for filter change or recommendation for bypass filter. So lets say the truck is programed to do all the above. The big question is what would people do?? Some would follow the program to the letter. Others would change the oil early for several reasons, that is how they have always done it/my dad did it that way/I read it was better on the forums/my buddy said to do it/I always doit if it rains a lot/I always do it if it is dry a lot/ I just like to work on my truck so I change it a lot/I use cheap oil so I change it early/ ect. Others would go past the recommended interval for several reasons, that is how they have always done it/my dad did it that way/I read it was better on the forums/my buddy said to do it/I always doit if it rains a lot/I always do it if it is dry a lot/I use expensive oil. The people who build the trucks have to look at everything the trucks will be expected to do and everyone that is driving/working on them, and come up with a workable program. In the end I bet it is kind of a SWAG on how they come up with the interval programing. Well enough for today hope everyone has a Marry Christmas!!
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I DOUBT it was a SWAG on the part of the Ford engineers do determine when their oil life monitor pops up. I would even go out on a limb and say that they quite likely did so using the Motorcraft Engine oils that they specified for use - use that as your baseline and go from there.
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So,... would it be plausible that the oil change interval be extended if one IS using synthetic?
I believe you extend oil change intervals at your own risk. If you have an oil related failure and have not gone by the recommended change intervals Ford will most likely not warranty the repair. You may have some luck getting the oil manufacturer to cover it if they recommended the extended change interval.

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I don't think anyone would cover an issue with extended intervals even the oil manufacture, it would be very hard to prove the extended interval did damage, unless it was something like a filter failure due to clogging. At that point it would be operator not oil issue. Just as the truck does not know what oil is in it, it also does not know if you changed oil or filter or just reset the monitor. I have gone 30,000 on AMSOIL with a bypass and oil sample from Blackstone said it was still good to go (7.3).


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Even better would be using the IDS to set the parameters of mileage/time to cause the system to alert for oil changes. Amazing things would happen!!!! Even better.....Does the truck not "recognize " when a trailer is hooked up?? WOW...it does! So that is a factor used in the algorithm used to show when the message pops up. Isn't there a "sensor" in the air filter housing that alerts to a certain amount of vacuum??? YES. Various other sensors ALL add into the mix......BAM.....Oil Change message pops on the dash. I'm not saying it's a 100% perfect system or process BUT you should be able to see where/how the system is able to make a "determination" on the oil change intervals even thru a persons variety of truck usage.


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So,... would it be plausible that the oil change interval be extended if one IS using synthetic?
Consider that Ford suggests using the full synthetic oil for a shorter oil interval when used under certain conditions. It's not far to say using it under normal or "basic" conditions may allow for "extended" intervals. The OEM range is 2500-10,000 miles depending on usage. Too include 5w40 is called into play for "severe" use and that's a interval of 5,000-7,500 miles.

Most oils will only be full-synthetic when 5w40 rated. 10w30 oils are blends. 15w40 oils are conventional. MOST oils....not all....most.

Amzoil requires the failure to be related to the oil last I recall. So using Amzoil a defective part will not be covered BUT if their oil is defective then the resulting damage would be covered.

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