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They have been improving them since 2010 as far as engine and tranny. Most the tech stuff in the 2017 except for a few things like the full glass roof, 360 cameras and cab camera were available in the 2015 and 2016.
The engine has gone thru many changes since 2010 thru 2016 leading to a upper end and turbo change for the 2017. They have taken all they have learned those past 5 years to make the 2017 a more reliable and powerful engine.

Now we will see how the new body and frame work out of course.

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I didn't think the Super Duty's had the adaptive cruse control? I know they don't have the lane assist because they dont have the electronic steering yet.
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I was told by sales man (take it with grain of salt) that the 2017 is 2" wide hen the 16. They are using the same cab as the F150's on the 2017 F250 & 350
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I didn't think the Super Duty's had the adaptive cruse control? I know they don't have the lane assist because they dont have the electronic steering yet.
Call me crazy, but I don't think I'd be interested in the gazillion cameras, lane sensors, adaptive cruise, etc.

My '03 is an XLT and I'm pretty sure I'd go with another XLT in a new truck. My current Super Duty is 14 years old and is in decent shape, but the corrosion, while light, is already under way. If I got another couple good years out of it, it'd be 16 years old and a new one would be aluminum skinned and should last just as long (if not longer).

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Yeah, there is more to go wrong, can't argue that. But the first time I backed up to a trailer with a camera, I got it to within a little wiggle of it dropping right onto the ball. Before it would take 3+ tries to get it right!

And the adaptive cruise is a nice feature as there is nothing more frustrating on a medium to long trip than having to adjust your cruise 20 times an hour for traffic.

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I agree with you on the XLT, I didnt like the fact I couldn't get a lariet with an upgraded package with out the full glass roof. I did not want all that glass and rubber seals. To many leak points.
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I agree with you on the XLT, I didnt like the fact I couldn't get a lariet with an upgraded package with out the full glass roof. I did not want all that glass and rubber seals. To many leak points.
Bingo. I have no interest in any type of sunroof on any of my vehicles.

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And the adaptive cruise is a nice feature as there is nothing more frustrating on a medium to long trip than having to adjust your cruise 20 times an hour for traffic.
That's what passing is for. I don't understand this technology - I can follow the erratic driver in front of me like a lost sheep with the gas & brake. I'm trying to maintain a constant speed, not simply stay a fixed amount of distance behind the vehicle in front of me, no matter how poor of a driver occupies that left seat.
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That's what passing is for. I don't understand this technology - I can follow the erratic driver in front of me like a lost sheep with the gas & brake. I'm trying to maintain a constant speed, not simply stay a fixed amount of distance behind the vehicle in front of me, no matter how poor of a driver occupies that left seat.
Sure, when that opportunity presents itself, but there are some of us who drive on 2-lane roads and often times passing isn't an option.

I'll deal with the occasional erratic driver when I'm in that position, but there is something to be said about just staying with traffic on the bigger highways and allowing the truck to position itself within that traffic at a comfortable distance.

I use the cruise A LOT to minimize fuel consumption, so I am often having to change the settings due to someone driving differently than I am. So, then I cancel my settings, reset it to what I *think* the other driver is doing, and then wait. Usually having to further adjust the settings until I am keeping pace. Now, I set the cruise at what I want to travel and the truck does that speed when possible and slows when necessary on it's own. Just less fuss for me!

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I use the cruise A LOT to minimize fuel consumption....
The foot that is hardwired to your brain produces better results in that department. Cruise control is for convenience, not fuel economy.
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Cruise in traffic is unsafe IMO but I guess if they add enough gadgets so you can take a nap while driving, it won't be an issue.

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I didn't think the Super Duty's had the adaptive cruse control? I know they don't have the lane assist because they dont have the electronic steering yet.
Not sure what you call it but my truck does have some sort of Lane assist system because when I get a cross the line the steering wheel vibrates. I do have the option to turn that on or off

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I didn't think the Super Duty's had the adaptive cruse control? I know they don't have the lane assist because they dont have the electronic steering yet.
They have adaptive cruise control and lane departure warning, you are right no electric steering to correct lane departure (assist). I like them both.


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Correct some of the F250 have a lane change warning that the wheel vibrates. But the F150 with the electronic steering actually turns back into your lane. You not only feel the steering wheel vibrate but it turns you back in your lane, or gives resistance to your initial turn. Something like that.
I didin't have this in my F150 so not sure how it works but that is how it was explained to me. Sounded kind of scary. What if I want to pass someone. I would guess if you have your turn signal on it wouldn’t try and correct you. But you have to have electronic steering for it.
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I may eat my words but I have purchased at least 4 new first year model trucks and have had great service and very few issues. The few that had problems had absolutely nothing to do with them being first model year trucks. Unless something drastic happens I would never hold back from buying first year new model trucks. Even though it only has 1200 miles on it so far my new '17 Super Duty F250 Platinum has proven it's worth without a glitch. I'm very impressed with the fuel mileage and ride.
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