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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-20-2010, 09:41 AM Thread Starter
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Ramps and Jack Stands?

Hi All,

First thanks for all the incredible info I have gained from you all.

Well I am ready to do my first oil change on my 2010 truck F250 (a little over 4K miles on it) and I have a question. I have a set of ramps (6 inch high) and rated to 3K pounds each. Once I drive the front up of the truck on the ramps, I will place the truck in park, set the park break, and chock to rear wheels. Now I have read that is reccomended to also use jack stands with ramps. Here is where I am confused. As most jack stands have finite adjustment (usually in about one inch steps) when using a jack, I jack the car/truck to slightly higher than the desired height, adjust the jack stand to the next lowest adjustment, place the jack stand appropiately, then lower the car/truck onto the jack stand. Transferring most of the load from the jack to the stand.

So I must be missing something. How does this work with fixed ramps and a jack stand with finite adjustments? How do you transfer the load to the to the jack stands?....can't lowerer the ramps?

Seems like the jack stand will always be not in contact with the car/truck (set just lower than the ramps)...I am sure I am missing something that is very obvious.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and input...

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The jack stands are there as a safety factor and you raise them as close to the frame as you can. Your ramp rated for 3K lbs is not giving you as much margin as you may believe. I bought a set of "heavy duty 10K GVWR" ramps and the section that transitions from the ground to the platform part of the ramp buckled while trying to drive up the ramp. After bending them straight again, I now put wood blocks under the transition part of the ramp as well as the platform part of the ramp. The truck front end with the big diesel weighs a lot. I took my truck and trailer to the truck scales to see where I now am at. With my fifth wheel hitch mounted, full tank, and auxilliary tank full I came out at 5360 lbs on the front axles and 4160 lbs on the back for a combined 9520 lbs. So even though your ramps say they are rated for 3K each I would not trust them. The supports are usually held by a couple rivets and under that weight it can let go and it will bounce down hard and fast. Make sure your jack stands are rated for the load as well. Be careful.

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i bought 12,000 lb ramps at Northern Tool....not expensive but great piece of mind since they only deal with one end of the truck at a time.

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i bought 12,000 lb ramps at Northern Tool....not expensive but great piece of mind since they only deal with one end of the truck at a time.
So are your "12000 lb ramps" rated at 12000 pounds capacity each or are they rated for a 12000 pound GVW? My ramps are rated for a 12000 GVW which yields individual ramp capacities of 3000 lbs.

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They are Blitz Rhino Extremes rated for a 12000 GVW vehicle. They are very substantial. I like them lots...
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Is your truck a 4x4 or 4x2? I have a 4x4 and have never had to raise it to change the oil. Even on a creeper i fit, and im not skinny lol.

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Is your truck a 4x4 or 4x2? I have a 4x4 and have never had to raise it to change the oil. Even on a creeper i fit, and im not skinny lol.
I myself have a 2WD and have never had to raise it to change the oil either. I used to just crawl underneath, but found it was easier to do with a creeper.

Go get a creeper. :-)

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I would buy at least 6K ramps. Mine are rated for 6K each so 12K total capacity.

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I myself have a 2WD and have never had to raise it to change the oil either. I used to just crawl underneath, but found it was easier to do with a creeper.

Go get a creeper. :-)
Yep, I fit under mine no problem.
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Yep, I fit under mine no problem.

Me too. I'm well over 200 lbs and the truck is 2 wd. Ditch the ramp and jack stands. Chock the wheels and slide under.....

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