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May be purchasing my first diesel

I would like people with 3-5 years of owning a diesel truck to mainly post.

I want to purchase a new family and tow vehicle. Need 4 door and a towing capacity of at least 11k

I plan on buying a F250 and from what I see on cars.com there is alot to choose from.

Price range 8,000 to 15,000.

I have a few questions.

1. What is the general maintenance on a Diesel truck compared to a gas truck?..what will i need to replace on a yearly basis other than the general stuff like oil changes, brakes, etc. i heard stories about replacing diesel fuel filters, diesel-water separator.

2. With Wisconsin winters what do I need to do to prepare truck for that weather?

3. At what mileage to diesel engines start to fail?

please feel free to add anything i may need to consider when moving from a gas vehicle to a diesel vehicle.

all mature advice needed here

thanks and sorry for making you read this essay i just wrote...i just want to be prepared for something I will be buying and have no idea about diesel trucks at all.
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need a little more information.

what years are you looking for?

4x4 or 2x4?

Dual rear wheel or single rear wheels?

automatic or standard?

theres alot of differences between servicing different years and different options.

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2005 or newer, Single rear wheel, Auto, 4 door, don't care if 4x2 or 4x4
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I would like people with 3-5 years of owning a diesel truck to mainly post.

I want to purchase a new family and tow vehicle. Need 4 door and a towing capacity of at least 11k

I plan on buying a F250 and from what I see on cars.com there is alot to choose from.

Price range 8,000 to 15,000.

I have a few questions.

1. What is the general maintenance on a Diesel truck compared to a gas truck?..what will i need to replace on a yearly basis other than the general stuff like oil changes, brakes, etc. i heard stories about replacing diesel fuel filters, diesel-water separator.

2. With Wisconsin winters what do I need to do to prepare truck for that weather?

3. At what mileage to diesel engines start to fail?

please feel free to add anything i may need to consider when moving from a gas vehicle to a diesel vehicle.

all mature advice needed here

thanks and sorry for making you read this essay i just wrote...i just want to be prepared for something I will be buying and have no idea about diesel trucks at all.

1. A: oil change every 7,000 - 10,000 miles fuel filter every 15,000-20,000 miles. Transmission service every 100,000 miles (Not 100% sure on the transmission somebody correct me if im wrong) If properly maintained these trucks can last forever.

2. A: In winter it is usually a good idea to switch to a lighter viscosity oil such as 5w-40. Also it is good practice to use some sort of anti fuel gell fuel aditive such as "diesel 911"

3. A: Thats a broad question with proper maintenance they can last forever however do your reasearch on the ford 6.0 engine and 6.4 problems. The ford 6.7 is a very good engine but finding one in your price range would be difficult.

Older model 7.3 trucks (99-2003) have well proven themselves im up to 220,000 miles and have never had an engine problem other then a few oil leaks. However the automatic transmission are the weak links on these trucks so they must be properly maintained. They are said to be million mile trucks. May be something to consider and in my opinion they are the cheapest and easiest to fix if something goes wrong. Make sure to do your research on the 6.0 and 6.4 common engine problems just to be aware of what you "could" experience. In my opinion also the later the model of each generation truck, the better chance you will have not running across problems as they seem to be the more "upgraded" vehicles.

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If I were you I would not rule out 2000-03 7.3 they are known for their dependability and can easily get 500,000 miles out if the motor. The newer 6.0 motors had issues but can be made dependable.

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Jmadigan and Texkenusmc hit the nail on the head. Get yourself a 7.3. Preferably 02-03 range just because of the improved electronics.

Jmadigan - transmission every 100,000? AAAGH! I drop my pan every third oil change and replace 8 quarts. If you want to do a complete flush instead, you can do it every 30K. Also, 5,000 mile oil change intervals are recommended.

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The problem I am having is the Queen of the house. The truck would be her daily driver and she does not want to go to bare bones int. She is driving a 2007 Yukon now and has expectations. Oh and she hates the idea of driving a truck. I told her she already was with the Yukon. lol Currently checking into a 2007 F250 with the 6.0. Mileage: 100,568 Fuel: Diesel
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Transmission: Automatic VIN: 1FTSW21P27EA63371
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Do your research and make sure it is bullet proofed if it is tuned at all. The 6.0 can be good after 5+G in modes and well maintained. Or stock and babied. I would hate for you to get one that she doesn't like and cost you a lot on repairs. That would just put a bad taste in your mouth for diesels.

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What about a excursion? 6.0 or 7.3 diesel? they are both around 250k miles.
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Jmadigan and Texkenusmc hit the nail on the head. Get yourself a 7.3. Preferably 02-03 range just because of the improved electronics.

Jmadigan - transmission every 100,000? AAAGH! I drop my pan every third oil change and replace 8 quarts. If you want to do a complete flush instead, you can do it every 30K. Also, 5,000 mile oil change intervals are recommended.
Shoot i didnt know what i was thinking haha.

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The 2005 excursions tow capacity is right at 11,000. not sure if that will work for your set up

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I would go with the 7.3 Excursion Zell66. For me it is the dependable factor and cheaper to work on less emissions crap to go bad.

2002 f250 7.3 4x4 256,000miles. Bone stock other than hutch mode and edge evo programer I use for gadges most of the time. I also have air bags on back for towing.

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on the 7.3 should the 244,000 miles scare me? I am so new to diesels it is scary. I am decent mechanic on a Gasser just a newbie to diesel.
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I'll just throw this out there, you mention you need a tow vehicle... but for how many miles a year?

A diesel engine is a significant risk of significantly higher maintenance/ repair cost especially if you are not doing the repair work yourself. If you plan on only towing a couple thousand miles a year for example and then use is as a daily driver (in a cold climate too), you may be setting yourself up for some large repairs that could be avoided with a gas truck. If it's not about the lowest cost of ownership and you just want a diesel, buy and enjoy but if cost of ownership is fairly high on the list... you could end up in the doghouse with the "Queen of the house" pretty quick.

And no, 244K miles is not the end of the world on a 7.3L if it has been maintained.

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The car fax report shows all listed maintenance at the local ford dealerships. This vehicle would be my wife's daily driver, tow vehicle and vehicle we use to travel to Indiana and Southern Illinois for visits with family. Have a 96 4/4 ton suburban now as a tow vehicle with a 7.4 454 gasser. only gets 8 mpg when towing and is getting up in age. 274,000 miles.

My thought was to replace her Yukon with a diesel SUV and sell out 40' trailer for a smaller one(now kids are leaving the nest) and possible double tow with our boat as well. In Wisconsin I can go up to 97' tip to tail.

As for repairs I will try to do what I can at home, as I have done all my life with my current vehicles. I will just have to learn a new language with diesel lol.
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