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12-20-2017 02:32 AM
DENNY That size strap sounds about right for pulling a F350 out. You can brake anything if you pull hard enough. For most stuck in the ditch or a bit of mud stuff it will do fine. Now go past the axle in deep mud with suction from water and I would worry more about what I am hooking too than the strap. I have a hitch on both front and back of the truck. I picked up a big hook that fits in the hitch which is great for hooking straps. I agree a clevis to frame is best but not so easy on some trucks/cars. I carry a big strap and short heavy chain so I can hook into frames easy. If I worry about any failure of strap I put coat or blanket over strap. Get EVERYBODY clear of cable, chain or strap on both sides, I have broken all of them in the past. Bottom line is that strap is fine, how will you hook it to front and back of your truck and what you are pulling or is pulling you???
DENNY
12-20-2017 02:07 AM
EDC8008
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Originally Posted by Steve83 View Post
Nothing can hurt you during a slow pull - only when snatching. And chain is the safest when snatching; it stores nearly NO energy, so when it breaks, it drops. But it's also the least-effective for snatching, and hardest on the vehicles, because it stores nearly no energy.

So I prefer to use chain, and I almost never do snatch recoveries.
If you haven't seen a chain whip when it fails you are lucky as I have.

20 years in the Navy, almost another 20 working in refineries, power plants, chemical plants, gas compression stations plus any where they used large rotating machinery. We used a lot of lines, cables, chains, and chain falls and the only place anything was snatched was flight deck arresting cables. I've had 2 ton cases seized in the fit and when it comes loose they will "bounce" a good 6 inches, why we use guide pins and safety stops. I've watched all sorts of chains, cables, and lines separate and go flying. If you pull something whether it's a steady pull or snatch watch out. We had to search for the link in a 5 ton that failed and found it sticking in a piece of 1/2" plywood.

Remember when pulling line of fire. If you are in it it can hurt.
12-19-2017 11:07 PM
Steve83 Naturally, when you combine something safe with something unsafe, the result is unsafe. I was talking about chain ONLY. I was also talking about appropriately-sized chain; i.e., chain that can apply sufficient force for the recovery without breaking. Anything can be overstressed, so don't.

And though you may have to hook everything together, you don't have to snatch something that can't take it. If it broke, it didn't pull you out anyway, and probably won't now that it's broken. Always pull as slowly as possible. A slow pull WILL work on a snatch strap/rope/whatever. It's actually more-effective than chain/cable/inelastic because the stuck vehicle gets pulled even after it pops out of the hole. But it's a lot less-dangerous than snatching.
12-19-2017 01:40 PM
79jasper A chain max not flex/stretch to store energy, but when combined with a strap, it sure will. Seen it happen.
Sometimes you have to hook together everything you have. Lol
I've also heard of putting a tire in the middle. Basically take one section of chain, hook to one side of the tire, take another and hook to the other side. It'll take the jolt/shock out.

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12-19-2017 12:19 PM
bugman I have seen a lot of chains break and come flying towards the moving vehicle when doing a snatch recovery.

To slow down a lot of the flying equipment place a coat or blanket over the chain, strap or what ever you are using.
12-19-2017 10:49 AM
Steve83 Nothing can hurt you during a slow pull - only when snatching. And chain is the safest when snatching; it stores nearly NO energy, so when it breaks, it drops. But it's also the least-effective for snatching, and hardest on the vehicles, because it stores nearly no energy.

So I prefer to use chain, and I almost never do snatch recoveries.
12-19-2017 01:03 AM
EDC8008 A quick way to reduce flying parts when using a chain or a cable is to take a half full sand bag and lay it over the middle. If the chain breaks it'll cause the long length to head to ground. I also have used an old fire hose and threaded the chain through that, My dad would only use a chain but put it in a pipe first but that's to awkward to carry.

I've used chains ropes and straps and only had one rope fail but we were trying to snatch something bigger than the rope's rating. Mooring lines are great, woven and braided are best, but watch the materials, polypropylene has very little stretch, and ropes really hate grease and oil. Most people don't think about it but you can wash ropes and straps, mild soap, I use Boraxo, just let them air dry.

Any of them can hurt you if they fail even cables. Nothing scarier than watching a 4" towing hawser explode.
01-27-2017 08:57 PM
leon theriault i have a ford f250 fwd, i also have a 1-1/2 inch nylon braided mooring line 50' long,.would this be out of the question for a snatch rope?
03-14-2011 05:41 AM
LayinHp you guys need to get Recovery straps alot of the straps your useng sound like there designed for hoisting and not pulling theres a difference.... an 8000lb truck can easily pull over say a 40,000lb rating, the hoisting slings arent designed for shock loading they do stretch but not in the elastic band type way. Most recovery straps should stretch almost double there length.

Useing chain or cable is just a ticking time bomb to someone loseing a head theres no give to them and the rating on them is no different then a sling and they do break easily.
02-17-2011 12:37 AM
86ford69 We have four big trucks that go out with us. We bring four straps and 3 chains. We hardly ever have trouble getting out. I mostly use the logging chain and have never had any problems with it. I have broken 3 straps and still have the chain. To each his own tho. My buddy won't touch a chain to his truck.
01-26-2011 09:04 AM
TruWrecks snatch techniques also break a lot of vehicles, both sides or the chain/strap. Slow and steady is the way to go. If you can't do it slow get a shovel and give it to the driver that got stuck so they can start digging.
08-04-2010 01:07 PM
LandShark-47 FWIW dirt and grease contaminate the strap. Be sure you maintain your straps like any other piece of equipment. Some grease and anti freeze can seriously damage the material also.
05-12-2010 11:38 AM
CowKiller i have broken 3 inch straps yanking people out with my 6.9. in my box i carry 1 3inch 30 footer, and 2 6 inch wide 30 footers. also have enough clevises to hook all three together and still have extras. also a 20 foot chain just in case.

some say overkill, but i have a dent on the back of my old cab from a 20000lb rated to hook i tore out of the frame on a blazer. scares the hell outa ya when that hits the cab.
01-02-2010 10:50 AM
choff12
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Originally Posted by MonteCarlo31 View Post
Snapped one of those clean in half with only a 1/2 F-150. I'll never use the cheap crap again. I've upgraded twice. I went to this TSC 6" 55K strap. Almost broke that and have since got a Master pull 74K lb recovery strap With the master pull you'll pull out a tow point or two (pulled one out of a F-550 with the master pull), the strap was still fine.

There is a place in Tampa, FL called Certified Slings that will also make similar straps. I know that the master pull is pricey but all you have to do is break a strap once to be at a 500 dollar deductible or worse really hurt or KILL someone
I would rather break my snatch strap then pull out a tow point, but thats just me. It seems like it would be alot cheaper to replace the $75 snatch strap then a ripped out tow point. On the subject of injuries as long as everyone is at a safe distance a snatch strap is alot less harmless than a tow hook/loop flying through the air. I still wouldnt want to nailed by a snatch strap though.

If I cant recover a stuck vehicle after 2-3 snatches its time to bust out the shovel and 2x6s. A winch would definitely be the way to go but I just cant justify spending 2000k+ on a winch setup when I can effectively spend about 150 on a nice strap, a few shovels, and a couple planks of wood. I will say that ive been in a few situations where digging is not and option and thats when I wish I had a beefier strap. As long as you take good care of the strap and keep most of the dirt out it will last you a long time.
01-02-2010 09:45 AM
knoweigh I do alot of rock crawling, trail riding etc with my modified toyota...so I see very little thick mud but I do use a winch with snatch blocks quite often.
As far as snatch straps, back in the day in my younger years I'd love to bury my stock toyota in 2ft of mud and we used 2" for those lighter trucks;
4" for full size;
However, different strap makers use different thicknesses too...
for instance, I've got a 4" from Loading Ramps, Hauling, Transport, & Skateboard Ramp Superstore - Discount Ramps.com that I keep in my super duty but it's relatively thin.....most likely comparable to a 3" white strap from TSC.
But, for the money, can't go wrong.
I've got alot from discount ramps and have been very happy with their service.
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