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11-24-2018 12:33 AM | |
blue99stroker |
Rotella 5w-40 is around 1100 ppm of each zinc and phos Delo 5w-40 is around 680 zinc and 750 phos Yikes Yet delo claims 70% better wear protection. The ck4 is supposed to have better anti aeration additives |
11-24-2018 12:21 AM | |
ArcticDriver |
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I was running Rotella T6 5W-40, but that was before CK-4 oils came out. I still had a pretty good stash of CJ-4 oils to work with, but I've only got enough for one more oil change.
I'll steer clear of CK-4 oils. Next time I buy oil, it'll be Schaeffer Supreme 9000™️ Full Synthetic Oil 5W-40, it's still CJ-4, for now. If I'm on the road and need oil, I'll stick with the WSS-M2C171-F1 oils with the Motorcraft logo on the bottle. For filters, here's what I've found... The absolute most efficient primary lube oil filter you can get for a 7.3 is the Donaldson DBL7405. (intended for a Caterpillar 3406) It's rated at 7 microns nominal, and 15 microns absolute. But this filter gets dented by my front suspension when it flexes, so I don't run it anymore. The second most efficient filter I can find is the Donaldson P550371, it's rated at 17 microns absolute. The third best I can find is the OEM Motorcraft FL-1995, according to Ford's website it's 18 microns absolute. There's a lot of hype about the Wix 51734XE & Napa 1734XE oil filters, but the published beta ratios are 4 @ 10 microns (absolutely incredible) and 75 @ 30 microns (less than mediocre). I'm inclined to think they've mistyped something because that's a wide range of good-to-bad performance in a single filter. 😉 |
11-24-2018 12:19 AM | |
ArcticDriver |
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And unfortunately quite a few CK4 oil’s are under 1k of zddp to help cat/DPF life.
Some are still ok. I know...probably much ado about nothing 😉 |
11-24-2018 12:15 AM | |
ArcticDriver |
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At a 20K OCI with a good quality synthetic, I wouldn't be worried about engine wear... I'd be worried about the depletion of the anti aeration additive package and the reduced performance of the oil... not as a lubricant, but as a hydraulic fluid providing the motive power for the injectors... where entrained air from the constantly churning oil would likely reduce the effectiveness of the oil's hydraulic function. Not a concern in a common rail fuel system, but something that International often said is a concern with a HEUI system.
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11-23-2018 10:20 PM | |
txgp17 |
I was running Rotella T6 5W-40, but that was before CK-4 oils came out. I still had a pretty good stash of CJ-4 oils to work with, but I've only got enough for one more oil change. I'll steer clear of CK-4 oils. Next time I buy oil, it'll be Schaeffer Supreme 9000™ Full Synthetic Oil 5W-40, it's still CJ-4, for now. If I'm on the road and need oil, I'll stick with the WSS-M2C171-F1 oils with the Motorcraft logo on the bottle. For filters, here's what I've found... The absolute most efficient primary lube oil filter you can get for a 7.3 is the Donaldson DBL7405. (intended for a Caterpillar 3406) It's rated at 7 microns nominal, and 15 microns absolute. But this filter gets dented by my front suspension when it flexes, so I don't run it anymore. The second most efficient filter I can find is the Donaldson P550371, it's rated at 17 microns absolute. The third best I can find is the OEM Motorcraft FL-1995, according to Ford's website it's 18 microns absolute. There's a lot of hype about the Wix 51734XE & Napa 1734XE oil filters, but the published beta ratios are 4 @ 10 microns (absolutely incredible) and 75 @ 30 microns (less than mediocre). I'm inclined to think they've mistyped something because that's a wide range of good-to-bad performance in a single filter. |
11-23-2018 09:45 PM | |
blue99stroker |
And unfortunately quite a few CK4 oil’s are under 1k of zddp to help cat/DPF life. Some are still ok. |
11-23-2018 02:37 PM | |
NYB | At a 20K OCI with a good quality synthetic, I wouldn't be worried about engine wear... I'd be worried about the depletion of the anti aeration additive package and the reduced performance of the oil... not as a lubricant, but as a hydraulic fluid providing the motive power for the injectors... where entrained air from the constantly churning oil would likely reduce the effectiveness of the oil's hydraulic function. Not a concern in a common rail fuel system, but something that International often said is a concern with a HEUI system. |
11-23-2018 01:01 AM | |
ArcticDriver |
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late to the party but I use chevron delo from walmart, Mobil delvac is also very good and is now cheaper around $10/gal. I used rotella when i first bought my truck in 06 I like chevron/delvac much better. made my engine louder/noisier. won't touch the stuff after.
Big R, tractor supply, etc have sales on mobile delvac where you can get it extremely cheap if you can afford to buy by the pallet. I use baldwin filters but would prefer fleetguard or donaldson...just my opinion Started with Rotella T6. Engine sounded better on DELO 400 LE 5w40: https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/...&docFormat=PDF WalMart quit stocking the LE right about the time I switched to DELVAC 5w40 in 5-gallon buckets for $125 minus a $60 rebate which is still active until end of 2018. The only inconvenience is the 5-gallon pail. Best to use a hand pump or pour into a 4-quart steel oilcan with spout: |
11-22-2018 10:58 PM | |
INFRNL |
late to the party but I use chevron delo from walmart, Mobil delvac is also very good and is now cheaper around $10/gal. I used rotella when i first bought my truck in 06 I like chevron/delvac much better. made my engine louder/noisier. won't touch the stuff after. Big R, tractor supply, etc have sales on mobile delvac where you can get it extremely cheap if you can afford to buy by the pallet. I use baldwin filters but would prefer fleetguard or donaldson...just my opinion |
09-30-2018 12:50 AM | |
bcguide | I use wallmart 15/40 and change it once or twice a year. Bought the truck with 125000 km and now has 470000 |
09-13-2018 08:23 AM | |
79jasper |
"I know a guy." Lol He'll sell to anyone that wants to call/text him. Same prices as if it were someone else. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk |
09-13-2018 08:21 AM | |
ArcticDriver |
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Do you have any UOAs to post?
Is your motivation cost savings? IIRC, your driving conditions are “severe” as defined by the Owners Manual? Thanks |
09-13-2018 08:20 AM | |
ArcticDriver |
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I hope you get this through your employer at some kind of discount.
Its expensive. It's really no different than any of the other big names. About $150 for a 5 gallon bucket shipped to my door in 2-3 days. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk |
09-12-2018 10:53 AM | |
losfinch |
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Do you have any UOAs to post?
Is your motivation cost savings? IIRC, your driving conditions are “severe” as defined by the Owners Manual? Thanks |
09-12-2018 07:26 AM | |
79jasper |
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I hope you get this through your employer at some kind of discount.
Its expensive. It's really no different than any of the other big names. About $150 for a 5 gallon bucket shipped to my door in 2-3 days. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk |
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