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03-31-2019 11:14 PM
DonWarkentin The 7.3L gas engine will not have the torque of the 6.7L diesel. Depending upon your application, $9000 savings in initial purchase price, plus less expensive fuel price per gallon, plus less expensive maintenance costs might make sense for some people who don't plan to tow heavy anyway and are not putting on too many miles.

The 7.3L gas engine will be available in the F250, F350, F450, F550, F650, and F750.
03-31-2019 07:51 AM
LMJD
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From what I have seen living on I-70 here in Colorado is that most of the diesel owners really don't need a diesel. They use them for grocery runs and making noise.
And lots of smoke. Every punk kid in my area has a beat to death Dodge diesel straight piped and stacks, yeah, ya gott'a have stacks. Don't get me going.
03-29-2019 12:04 PM
bugman From what I have seen living on I-70 here in Colorado is that most of the diesel owners really don't need a diesel. They use them for grocery runs and making noise. I love it when I see a F350 dual wheel drive diesel truck going down the freeway with a sleeper shell on the back and no receiver hitch on the back.

Unfortunately I am falling into the category of not needing a diesel. But it sure is nice once or twice a year when I do load it up a little and go on a long drive. But a gas truck would do just as well for what I haul, that is except for mileage.
03-29-2019 11:56 AM
klhansen
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Originally Posted by DonWarkentin View Post
Hopefully, Ford engineers have figured out how to get good fuel efficiency in a gas engine at full GCWR. If they have succeeded to do that with the 7.3L gas engine, then it may become a popular choice.
It's probably a bit better on fuel mileage than the old Ford big block, but comparing a gas engine to a diesel is a losing proposition in terms of torque and pulling power. It's the nature of the diesel cycle that makes it produce higher torque.
03-29-2019 11:42 AM
LMJD
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Hopefully, Ford engineers have figured out how to get good fuel efficiency in a gas engine at full GCWR. If they have succeeded to do that with the 7.3L gas engine, then it may become a popular choice.
Who knows? A friend had one of those big block V10 F250's that was not too old and he said the mileage was terrible. But according to Car & Driver all the 1/2 ton small blocks, Dodge, Chevy, Ford, and Tundra nowadays get about 20 hwy mileage not towing. Years ago you were lucky to get 14 with any 1/2 ton pickup. And like Bugman said, 8 or 9 with a 460 Ford or 454 Chevy.
03-28-2019 01:51 PM
DonWarkentin Hopefully, Ford engineers have figured out how to get good fuel efficiency in a gas engine at full GCWR. If they have succeeded to do that with the 7.3L gas engine, then it may become a popular choice.
03-28-2019 10:49 AM
bugman
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Well, the good news is that Ford is coming up with a solution to high diesel prices. In 2020 there will be a new 7.3L, this time running on gasoline.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-duty/2020/
If it is like any of the rest of the Ford big block engines expect 12mpg and less.

I had a 84 F250 that got 8mpg at best. The worst mileage that I ever got with it was around 3mpg but that was fighting a headwind for 100 miles with a cab over camper and pulling a trailer. The fastest I could move was around 50 mph on the freeway. I filled up and had to put around 35 gallons back into it around 100 miles later. If I hadn't had to be somewhere I would of just pulled over and waited the windstorm out.

As for the diesel thing, I use my diesel when I need a truck. In the last two years I drove it a total of 5500 miles. I have a puddle jumper that gets 30mpg for the around town thing and trips where I don't need a truck.

Every time that I get back into my diesel I almost have to relearn where everything is located at.
03-28-2019 09:06 AM
LMJD Bad thing is, a gas engine is a gas engine. I bought a new Tundra 5.7 V8 in 2010 and it's got LOTS of horsepower, gets 20 MPG highway driving but when I hook up my MIL's light weight aluminum 2 horse bumper pull with my 700lb. Polaris ATV in the trailer, fuel mileage drops to 9-10 MPG. But I can put 3 horses in my slant load 3 horse gooseneck heavier steel trailer and still get 13 MPG using my '91 F250 diesel. And my diesel has always got 18 MPG highway driving empty. Guess if it's mainly used for towing a diesel still makes more sense.
03-20-2019 01:16 PM
DonWarkentin Well, the good news is that Ford is coming up with a solution to high diesel prices. In 2020 there will be a new 7.3L, this time running on gasoline.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-duty/2020/
03-20-2019 07:06 AM
LMJD
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Must be a regional thing. Around here, diesel is either lower than gas or within a few cents if higher.
I'm planning a road trip down to America in the spring, and I'll probably take it in the shorts on diesel prices.
That's interesting, in most of WY and MT, diesel ranges anywhere from 30 to 40 cents higher per gallon than gas. Been that way for quite a few years now.
02-10-2019 10:37 PM
ArcticDriver
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I don’t know why AK gasoline prices are so high since there are in state refineries but diesel is not very high and it has to be barged up since there are no diesel refineries.
Actually, most of our gasoline is barged up. The only operating refinery is in Kenai now, since the one at North Pole shut down.
True, the Tesoro Nikiski refinery is the only one producing gasoline since Flint Hills closed down in 2014 and the small Petro Star refineries in North Pole and Valdez mostly produce aviation fuels, but I think Tesoro still holds enough of the Alaska gasoline market to set price quite high with minimal competition from Outside. I do recall in the higher demand summer months, some gasoline has even been shipped from refineries in South Korea.

There is also a small refinery in Prudhoe for gasoline but its used exclusively for BP & Conoco fleets and the village of Nuiqsut.
02-10-2019 08:37 PM
klhansen
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I donít know why AK gasoline prices are so high since there are in state refineries but diesel is not very high and it has to be barged up since there are no diesel refineries.
Actually, most of our gasoline is barged up. The only operating refinery is in Kenai now, since the one at North Pole shut down.
02-10-2019 07:58 PM
ArcticDriver
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Originally Posted by klhansen View Post
Must be a regional thing. Around here, diesel is either lower than gas or within a few cents if higher.
I'm planning a road trip down to America in the spring, and I'll probably take it in the shorts on diesel prices. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/TheDieselStop_2015/smilies/tango_face_sad.png[/IMG]
I don’t know why AK gasoline prices are so high since there are in state refineries but diesel is not very high and it has to be barged up since there are no diesel refineries.
02-10-2019 06:56 PM
ArcticDriver
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Well, I may rent a car. It will cost me $110 more, once you factor in fuel/gas prices, to run a rental car from NY to FL and back to NY. $110 to not have to worry is the upside, downside is that kids don't like trading down to a full size car. Car claims to get 36mpg, so I figure 32, and truck gets 18.5 or so. I can't believe it is a $1.89 vs $2.99 for gas and diesel. It was less than gas when I bought the truck. Oh well.
You will also save on tire wear, oil change, etc.

But I refuse to drive through TN in anything smaller than a full size truck.

Everybody in that State drives like they have a number on the side of their door and are racing NASCAR.
02-10-2019 06:24 PM
clydesdale Well, I may rent a car. It will cost me $110 more, once you factor in fuel/gas prices, to run a rental car from NY to FL and back to NY. $110 to not have to worry is the upside, downside is that kids don't like trading down to a full size car. Car claims to get 36mpg, so I figure 32, and truck gets 18.5 or so. I can't believe it is a $1.89 vs $2.99 for gas and diesel. It was less than gas when I bought the truck. Oh well.
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