[JMN]

Well, it is cold here and '01 Powerstroke F350 4x4 auto crewcab does not want to start. Replaced the glow plug relay - no joy. So I am suspecting glowplugs. Since replacing glowplugs involves removing turbo pipes and valvecovers, I was considering digging into my piggy bank and doing a couple of other upgrades. I was looking at turbo, injectors and HPOP. Funds are not unlimited so I am looking for recommendations on what to upgrade first and so on. Existing mods; AFE cold air intake, 4" turbo back exhust, DP tuner (60 hp tow, 80 hp daily driver), 3 guage pod w/ Boost, tranny temp and EGT, and 6.0L tranny cooler.

I understand if I do any upgrades, I will have to have the tuner reprogrammed to take full advantage of the mods. I use this as a truck and do not rod it but when I hook up to my 26 ft 5th wheel and load it down, I like to drive the speed limit. Right now pulling a long grade, it is not hard to have EGTs 1200 to 1300 degrees and still loosing speed. Main goal for me is to drive speed limit and keep EGTs below 1200 degrees. Any advice as to brand/model and order to do to help out would be appreciated.

 

[yan7gin]

First, the GP's are only under the valve cover so no need to remove turbo, up pipe and all that stuff. Its also a really quick job. You can test the GP's from the plug of the Valve cover gasket to make sure it is your problem before doing bunch of work that you don't need.

Now if you really to do you upgrade, it would be a good idea to tell us what turbo, injectors and HPOP you are looking at so we can help


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[69mach1377]

I would fix the problem first...nothing like doing a bunch of changes and have issues with no clue what the cause is.

 

[JMN]

I appreciate the reply's. I was under the impression that getting the valve covers off would entail removal of up/down pipes. If not much less work than I anticipated. As it stands, being right after Christmas, I am more than likely just going to fix the GPs but ultimately would like to upgrade.

As far a upgrading, ultimate goal is to just have a rig that will run the speed limit loaded and not melt stuff in the process. I have no knowledge/opinion on what parts I am looking at since I am just starting process. I have gathered that as long as I keep mods below 500 hp that no upgrades to the lower end will be needed. Again bottom line is I'm looking for usable hp/torque. I also know that depending on the size of injectors I go with, I may need HPOP. Other than that, I am looking for advice/opinion on what to do 1st, 2nd etc and what recommendation/things to watch out for as to specific brands/models of parts.

Thanks

 

[Griz]

I appreciate the reply's. I was under the impression that getting the valve covers off would entail removal of up/down pipes. If not much less work than I anticipated. As it stands, being right after Christmas, I am more than likely just going to fix the GPs but ultimately would like to upgrade.

As far a upgrading, ultimate goal is to just have a rig that will run the speed limit loaded and not melt stuff in the process. I have no knowledge/opinion on what parts I am looking at since I am just starting process. I have gathered that as long as I keep mods below 500 hp that no upgrades to the lower end will be needed. Again bottom line is I'm looking for usable hp/torque. I also know that depending on the size of injectors I go with, I may need HPOP. Other than that, I am looking for advice/opinion on what to do 1st, 2nd etc and what recommendation/things to watch out for as to specific brands/models of parts.

Thanks

I think you are confusing the up pipes (from exhaust to back of turbo) with with pipes (CAC) that run from the turbo spider to the inter-cooler. If the glow plugs are bad and you are thinking about upgrading the injectors...that would be something to do at the same time. Also replace the gasket/harness that is under the valve cover and the 2 o-rings under the CCV. As far as replacing the turbo and HPOP...those can be done at another time. Only use Motorcraft glow plugs...as far as the injectors go, you need to decide what you are looking for as far as power etc. I can't help you there. Like other's have said you need to identify what is causing your cold start problem and fix that first. Just my 2 cents.

Griz

 

[Texkenusmc]

To get egt down all you need to do is upgrade turbo, 4in turbo back exhaust and 6.0 intercooler. With that you should see a major difference. I am in the process of doing this to my truck. I pull a 35' triple slid fifth wheel RV so I fill your pain.

 

[yan7gin]

As it stands, being right after Christmas, I am more than likely just going to fix the GPs but ultimately would like to upgrade.

this is exactly what I would do. fix the issue not, get the truck in good shape before doing any mod.

If you want to stay under 500hp and get good towing this is what you need:

• intake
• 4" turbo back exhaust
• GTP38R or KC38R turbo
• 160/30 or 175/30 injectors
• cnc 4 line fuel kit
• 6.0 trans cooler
• gauges
• tuning from tuner of your choice

this will bring you around 400-450hp with good towing and MGP

 

[blue99stroker]

Yang put together a good list.

fuel injector and turbo upgrades can put a hurt on a stock trans. And a good trans is 3100-4K.

I would say if you want to drop top end egts delete the ebpv and add a billet compressor wheel.

Those two will drop top end egts another 200 degrees. That should allow you to maintain speed while towing hills.

Also make sure you have no boost leaks while your at it.

Up pipes should be replaced if they show signs of leakage.

 

[BroncoGlenn]

A quality set of CAC boots such as those from RiffRaff would be something to consider if you're in the process of pulling the turbo ducting off.


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How many miles on your current injectors? They could be the cause for the hard start if they have a bunch of miles on them.

I would recommend doing 160/30's, and GTP38R, and T500 HPOP if you are wanting to upgrade those parts. That part combination is a proven setup and we have a ton of customers running it. Will tow your 5th wheel with ease.

We carry all those parts if you are interested. I would be happy to get you setup with them and get your chip reburnt. Let me know if you have any questions.

https://www.dp-tuner.com/ford-powerstroke/ford-powerstroke-7-3l-2.html

 

[JMN]

Thank you all.

As far as Cold Start: Found 5 bad glow plugs, replaced all 8. It was 24 degrees in my shop this morning and truck started right up. So GP was that issue.

Upgrades: Since I could not get the injectors I wanted in town (160/30s) and considering advice from 69Mach1377 and others, I decided to wait and save my money till I can get them and turbo ordered. Based on all of your responses, I am saving for the above injectors and a GTP38R turbo. Justin/Jody from DP Tuner have me seriously considering buying from them since the reburning of my chip is included if I buy the mods from them and from looking at the prices/reviews of the products offered it is a good deal.

Again Thank you all for the info.

Keep the shiny side up and the muddy side down.

 

[79jasper]

Keep in mind with the ts style chip, you will have downtime while you send the chip off to be reburned.
With the hydra, tunes are emailed and you just plug it into your laptop to load them.

Just food for thought. I think dp tuner has a similar setup. Maybe.

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[yan7gin]

Just food for thought. I think dp tuner has a similar setup. Maybe.

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[CAREYBO]

Others will offer the same deal, The PHP HYDRA is a much better choice and you can't beat the Performance, Price and Reliability of a Honey Badger Jr. HPOP


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Thank you all.

As far as Cold Start: Found 5 bad glow plugs, replaced all 8. It was 24 degrees in my shop this morning and truck started right up. So GP was that issue.

Upgrades: Since I could not get the injectors I wanted in town (160/30s) and considering advice from 69Mach1377 and others, I decided to wait and save my money till I can get them and turbo ordered. Based on all of your responses, I am saving for the above injectors and a GTP38R turbo. Justin/Jody from DP Tuner have me seriously considering buying from them since the reburning of my chip is included if I buy the mods from them and from looking at the prices/reviews of the products offered it is a good deal.

Again Thank you all for the info.

Keep the shiny side up and the muddy side down.

You will like the 160/30 and GTP38R combo. It is a proven setup.

Let me know if I can help you out with anything else or get something going for you. :thumbsup:

you can't beat the Performance, Price and Reliability of a Honey Badger Jr. HPOP


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Yes, you most definitely can. Have heard and seen more than a few complaints on that pump (leaks, performance, etc). For a little more than half the price of the HBJR HPOP, the T500 is a much better option for a mild pump upgrade.

 

[blue99stroker]

I'm going to agree with Justin.

The honey badger pumps are garbage.

A stock replacement or t500 is better.

A Reman stock pump is more than up to the task to handle 160/30's.

 

[CAREYBO]

I'm going to agree with Justin.

The honey badger pumps are garbage.

A stock replacement or t500 is better.

A Reman stock pump is more than up to the task to handle 160/30's.

That is absurdly delusional!
The T-500 is not reliable at all. Check out all of the forums. They don't lie. No reason to.


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That is absurdly delusional!
The T-500 is not reliable at all. Check out all of the forums. They don't lie. No reason to.


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Have you run a T500? They are the only pump we carry for a reason.

Spoke to a customer just a few days ago who has gone through 3 HBJR pumps (leaks and failures). He was sick of swapping HPOP's so he called me and ordered a T500. He is well known on some of these 7.3L forums.

I can count on one hand the number of T500 pump issues I have dealt with in the past 4+ years.

 

[blue99stroker]

I've heard of a few T500's having issues lately, But after thousands that's pretty good.

The HBJR was all hyped up and ended up being junk. Just like the original SRP pumps lol heck you might argue the SRP1.1's were junk too

 

[Maryland dieselnick]

Have you run a T500? They are the only pump we carry for a reason.

Spoke to a customer just a few days ago who has gone through 3 HBJR pumps (leaks and failures). He was sick of swapping HPOP's so he called me and ordered a T500. He is well known on some of these 7.3L forums.

I can count on one hand the number of T500 pump issues I have dealt with in the past 4+ years.

Justin, what are they doing? Are they just putting a larger rotator group and valve plate in or are they cocking the swashplate a few degrees more?