[stanleyc]

5000 miles and the high pressure fuel pump broke. I was hooked up to my gooseneck and pulled up about 100 feet and the truck died. I called a wrecker and they towed me to the dealership where I purchased the truck. After hooking it up to the computer, it showed that the high pressure fuel pump had short to ground. The tech said the cab had to come off the truck to fix this problem. I am going to the dealership tommorrow to take pictures. They can't tell me why this happen, only that one other truck in the state of Louisiana had this problem.
I have also brought it in because of the #3&5 injector were sticking. The dealership told me that I will have to add Cetane Booster on every fill-up. The problem I have with this is that I didn't buy this truck to have to also keep buying cetane booster.
I also ask'd the dealership if we could run High Sulphur Diesel, and they told me No. I told them that if another hurricane hits where I live, that all we could get was red fuel. I explained to the dealership, that my business is airboats and marsh excavators and that we work in remote areas and sometime have to use red fuel, because its all we can get.

I know this is long, but any help will be nice.
Thank You for your time.

 

[Texrob1]

Welcome to the site Invoice,sorry about your problems with the new truck.As far as the fuel goes the main reason (as I understand it)is the truck needs ULSD mainly due to the emmissions equipment on the truck.This has been debated here before,and the concensus seemed to be your truck will run rough & your DPF will clog much sooner & you will probably have more regens.Also if you run H.S fuel in the truck & have any problems, that will give Ford reason to deny the warranty claim.It might be a good idea to get an in bed fuel tank & keep it full of ULSD for when you are out in the Boonies. Good luck. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gifKeep us updated.

 

[CaptSkup]

High pressure fuel pump, short to ground? I am pretty sure that the high pressure pump is gear driven mechanical pump. Can't help with your problem with the fuel, ULSD is the only highway fuel now available, I never had the need to use off-road agriculture fuel. Hope you do take some pictures, and hopefully you have enough light for them to come out in detail.

 

[Diesel Jay]

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Can't help with your problem with the fuel, ULSD is the only highway fuel now available...

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Nope. See my post on this from earlier today.

- Jay

 

[GrampyJim]

Part of the high pressure fuel pump are two solenoids.... the volume control solenoid valve and the pressure control solenoid valve. IIRC, neither of these valves is currently serviced separately from the high pressure fuel pump.

 

[guardrail22]

another instance of why this whole ULSD thing is BS.

Exit 56 off I 85 I bought fuel two weeks ago. One side of the pump had a sticker saying new trucks had to use ULSD. Other side has a B20 sticker, and there is only one green filler neck cover in the parking lot.

What's in the pump?

a. ULSD
b. ULSD B20
c. LSD
d. LSD B20
e. all of the above

the answer is I don't know and neither does anyone working in the station.

until they mandate appropriate labeling at the federal level and enforce it the whole thing is junk.

 

[rlchv70]

Have them make sure that it is the pump and not the wiring.

Running LSD will shorten the life of the DPF. It should not lead to more frequent regens.

 

[GrampyJim]

LSD contains no more than 500 ppm sulfur.... ULSD no more than 15 ppm....

The higher sulfur content results in higher particulate emissions..... These particles will come to rest in the DPF and require more regens to reduce them to ash.

Since LSD will increase the particulates that the DPF will have to deal with, we can expect shorter life of the unit.

 

[Texrob1]

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another instance of why this whole ULSD thing is BS.

Exit 56 off I 85 I bought fuel two weeks ago. One side of the pump had a sticker saying new trucks had to use ULSD. Other side has a B20 sticker, and there is only one green filler neck cover in the parking lot.

What's in the pump?

a. ULSD
b. ULSD B20
c. LSD
d. LSD B20
e. all of the above

the answer is I don't know and neither does anyone working in the station.

until they mandate appropriate labeling at the federal level and enforce it the whole thing is junk.

[/ QUOTE ]Agreed! It amazes me how the people working at the gas stations have NO Idea what is coming out of their pumps! I know these are not highly paid professionals working there,but when the tanker trucks deliver the fuel,they have manifest,BOL's etc.Where does all that paperwork go?You know the truck driver has to be pretty darn sure he is putting the right fuel from his truck into the right underground tank.So why doesn't the station staff know? One of the great mysteries that will never be solved I guess. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Rant over:

 

[newbie_101]

This issue is starting to concern me. How in the world are we to know what we're putting into our trucks?

I'm in Canada, is there some master list of stations using the ULSD we can access? If the resellers don't know, how are we to know.

 

[alexb]

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This issue is starting to concern me. How in the world are we to know what we're putting into our trucks?

I'm in Canada, is there some master list of stations using the ULSD we can access? If the resellers don't know, how are we to know.

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All diesel fuel sold in Canada is ULSD. It's been that way since about mid-2006.

 

[hitchup]

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Exit 56 off I 85 I bought fuel two weeks ago. One side of the pump had a sticker saying new trucks had to use ULSD. Other side has a B20 sticker, and there is only one green filler neck cover in the parking lot.

the answer is I don't know and neither does anyone working in the station.

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Same general area we had problems finding ULSD fuel in late March. Stickers weren't clear, so DH walked in to check. Clerks pulled out their last fuel receipts to verify it was still LSD 500ppm being delivered. One clerk in NC or VA called the manager just as I found the "hidden" sticker saying ULSD 15ppm.

We're making a return trip from VA to GA in less than 2 weeks without the RV. That alone will make it easier to find the correct fuel. We can pull off at any diesel stations vs RV friendly only. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

 

[GrampyJim]

Cory.... June 1st, 2006, nothing other than ULSD has been produced as OTR fuel in Canada.... As long as you aren't getting your fuel from "unique" sources (rig tanks that haven't seen a lot of use in the last year or other sources with low product turnover), your chances of getting anything other than ULSD are between slim and nil....

The resellers? What, in Gods name, is a conveninece store clerk going to know about diesel fuel?

IIRC, you live in Sherwood Park.... not far from refinery row. Why not call ESSO or PetroCan and see what it is they've been producing for local delivery? Still not sure? Call some of the many, many bulk fuel suppliers in Edmonton and surrounding area to see what they've been receiving

 

[macmaniac1]

B20 is simply diesel blended with 20% biodiesel.

 

[newbie_101]

Grampy, thanks! Just got a little worried when I've yet to see a sticker on the tanks, and these are major centers. I buy most of my fuel from Flying J's in Sherwood park and they don't have stickers on the pumps. If anybody around here is going to sell a lot of fuel it's them.

 

[DP007]

Diesel pumps in Canada do not need labels since all pumps are required to have only ULSD. Whats confusing things is that some oil companys are putting stickers on when in fact they should not.
I believe that in USA only 85% of the pumps need to carry ULSD, thats why pumps are to be labeled. This is making for a dogs breakfeast since some small companys fill there tanks whatever they can purchase cheaper that week.

The info is all on the respective government web sites.

Dave

 

[hedgehog]

I just returned to Massachusetts after being in Myrtle Beach, SC last week. I was surprised that 50% of the places I stopped for fuel only had LSD and not ULSD. Luckily my truck is a 2005 so this doesn't matter.