1996 F-350 aftermarket gauges
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You can go down to the vendor section and start to look at what some of them have. I my self have a boost, and a pyro in a two guage pod. It sounds like you have a auto tranny so you would want a transmission temp guage as well. If you like you can look HERE for a start to see what is available from DPPI. As far as price for three guages you'll be looking anywhere from $200.00 to $300.00 for them pluss the install price if you have somebody else do it.
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I would highly recommend checking out Isspro. I put autometers in my truck and there great, but I installed Isspro's in my Dad's truck last year and wow. Best quality I've ever seen in a gauge.
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Here another vote for Isspro´s :thumbsup:
I'm way more into functional and value as opposed to looks.
Based on that, what do you think of this choice?
Stewart Warner 120071 - Stewart Warner Performance Impact Series 3-Gauge Kits - summitracing.com
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Auto Meter 17303 - Auto Meter Pillar Gauge Pods - summitracing.com
thanks
Pretty sure I can get all of this delivered for around $250
Based on that, what do you think of this choice?
Stewart Warner 120071 - Stewart Warner Performance Impact Series 3-Gauge Kits - summitracing.com
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Auto Meter 17303 - Auto Meter Pillar Gauge Pods - summitracing.com
thanks
Pretty sure I can get all of this delivered for around $250
Pcs0snq,
Why not have both function and looks? I've been researching gauges for a long time and I'd have to say that the new Isspro EV2 line looks to be the end all for gauges, plus they're made here in the USA; unlike most other companies. Isspro is a top OEM manufacturer of factory gauges for alot of the big truck companies, including International. One of Isspro's top engineers is a member here and even drives an OBS PSD like us, he even matched the font of the gauges to our factory gauges, so they appear factory. If you check out Isspro's website you can take a look at the EV2 line, and read some of their superior features. In my opinion, the other manufactures don't even compare.
Hope it helps,
K.N.
Why not have both function and looks? I've been researching gauges for a long time and I'd have to say that the new Isspro EV2 line looks to be the end all for gauges, plus they're made here in the USA; unlike most other companies. Isspro is a top OEM manufacturer of factory gauges for alot of the big truck companies, including International. One of Isspro's top engineers is a member here and even drives an OBS PSD like us, he even matched the font of the gauges to our factory gauges, so they appear factory. If you check out Isspro's website you can take a look at the EV2 line, and read some of their superior features. In my opinion, the other manufactures don't even compare.
Hope it helps,
K.N.
KN Actually I started with ISS and was disappointed they did not have a deal set up that has it all. What I found was it's all ala cart making it a challenge to get it all correct. For example the EGT gauge did not come with sensor and the sensor had many options.
Maybe I missed it. Do they have a 3 gauge deal like the SW I posted that's 100%^ complete?
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R82133 Turbo Boost $192.11 / <List My Cost>$144.00
R82588 Coolant $128.46 /<List My Cost> $96.34
R82000 ESP (controller) $396 /<List My Cost> $250
R82021 Pyrometer 0-1600° F My Cost> $76.71
3 Gauge Pillar Pod Mount FREE
As I understand it, some shops do sell the Gauges A la Cart Style to keep the cost down and make you think your getting a deal, but as you said you end up paying for the sensors too. The expensive part is the ESP Controller, but you can run up to 17 gauges from it.
Also with ISSPRO gauges, you get a memory feature so you can tell at the push of a button, the highest values your sensors have recorded. (A seperate switch needs to be purchased) and you also have the ability to match your current illumination brightness.
Plus, you can pull one gauge out, move it to another pod position and it will still work, or you can switch the gauge with another one and not have to do any additional wiring into the cab. (You still need to wire any sensor needed, to the ESP Controller that mounts under your hood)
I got mine from Greg at http://www.neweradiesel.com
Another good place to try for gauges is http://www.kensperformancesolutions.com
they have a nice 3 gauge set up with a Tee fitting and instructions and at your door for around $300.00 but I do not know the brand of the gauges.
I began installing my gauges today, I might be finished by this weekend!
I'd also if I were to do it again I'd get the clamp on type sensor for the Pyro
instead of the weld in one if I purchased ISSPRO Gauges but most likely I wouldn't purchase ISSPRO if I knew the amount of "knuckle grease" I'd be spending installing them.
I picked up 3 ISSPRO Gauges, complete with all sensors.
R82133 Turbo Boost $192.11 / <List My Cost>$144.00
R82588 Coolant $128.46 /<List My Cost> $96.34
R82000 ESP (controller) $396 /<List My Cost> $250
R82021 Pyrometer 0-1600° F My Cost> $76.71
3 Gauge Pillar Pod Mount FREE
As I understand it, some shops do sell the Gauges A la Cart Style to keep the cost down and make you think your getting a deal, but as you said you end up paying for the sensors too. The expensive part is the ESP Controller, but you can run up to 17 gauges from it.
Also with ISSPRO gauges, you get a memory feature so you can tell at the push of a button, the highest values your sensors have recorded. (A seperate switch needs to be purchased) and you also have the ability to match your current illumination brightness.
Plus, you can pull one gauge out, move it to another pod position and it will still work, or you can switch the gauge with another one and not have to do any additional wiring into the cab. (You still need to wire any sensor needed, to the ESP Controller that mounts under your hood)
I got mine from Greg at http://www.neweradiesel.com
Another good place to try for gauges is http://www.kensperformancesolutions.com
they have a nice 3 gauge set up with a Tee fitting and instructions and at your door for around $300.00 but I do not know the brand of the gauges.
I began installing my gauges today, I might be finished by this weekend!
I'd also if I were to do it again I'd get the clamp on type sensor for the Pyro
instead of the weld in one if I purchased ISSPRO Gauges but most likely I wouldn't purchase ISSPRO if I knew the amount of "knuckle grease" I'd be spending installing them.
Pcs0snq,
You may want to check out Diesel Manor DieselManor - Gauges and Related Items Including Complete Kits they have simplified gauge combos. However, I believe their current combos are just the EV line and not the EV2 like I recommended. Also check out Isspro's website, they have suppliers there too, and check out their forum here on TheDieselStop.
One of the reasons that I'm saying to go with the EV2 line is that they should be much simpler, they don't need the big amplifier boxes, and the pyro uses a plug in Weatherpack connection instead of the antiquated heat shrink method. Also, the EV2 line has flat glass instead of the glare prone convex lens, and they're all electronic instead of stepper motors used in other lines.
I believe the gauges that Krokus_96F350 is referring to is the Performax line which is a really cool set-up but probably more than what you need. The Performax line requires the ESP Controller, but the EV2 line does not. The main advantage to the Performax line is the ability to run many (17) gauges. Basically the EV2 line has alot of the advantages of the Performax line, but is more reasonable for those that don't need 17 gauges.
Hope it helps,
K.N.
You may want to check out Diesel Manor DieselManor - Gauges and Related Items Including Complete Kits they have simplified gauge combos. However, I believe their current combos are just the EV line and not the EV2 like I recommended. Also check out Isspro's website, they have suppliers there too, and check out their forum here on TheDieselStop.
One of the reasons that I'm saying to go with the EV2 line is that they should be much simpler, they don't need the big amplifier boxes, and the pyro uses a plug in Weatherpack connection instead of the antiquated heat shrink method. Also, the EV2 line has flat glass instead of the glare prone convex lens, and they're all electronic instead of stepper motors used in other lines.
I believe the gauges that Krokus_96F350 is referring to is the Performax line which is a really cool set-up but probably more than what you need. The Performax line requires the ESP Controller, but the EV2 line does not. The main advantage to the Performax line is the ability to run many (17) gauges. Basically the EV2 line has alot of the advantages of the Performax line, but is more reasonable for those that don't need 17 gauges.
Hope it helps,
K.N.
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I wish I had known about the EV2 Line before I picked up the Performax stuff.
Unless you have a lot of patience and time, I'd shy away from the Performax Line, it's not worth the hassle unless your driving a race truck or something.
wow good stuff thanks all.
clamp on ETG probe is a great idea:thumbsup:
Stewart Warner was the go to folks back in the day. Long before Auto Meter. Just wondering if no one gave a comment or took a look at the one I posted because they have issues these days???
clamp on ETG probe is a great idea:thumbsup:
Stewart Warner was the go to folks back in the day. Long before Auto Meter. Just wondering if no one gave a comment or took a look at the one I posted because they have issues these days???
Back with a few more questions.
On the mount location. Would any of you say the under dash is a much easier installing then the pillar mount? ie routing of wire and cable through firewall and connecting to 12V and ground and dimmer.
The EGT T/C I see many styles. Look like the clamp on one is the best from easy install? On the non clamp one, did anyone drill and tap the pipe for a thread in one? ie no weld?
Was wondering if anyone could take the time to show with pic or describe the tap in locations for the EGT T/C and the Boost Pressure.
For the oil pan I was thinking of draining the fluid and just drill and tapping a place for the sensor on the side of the pan. Is that what you guys did?
I will take good pics of mine and post on the form in case this comes up again.
On the mount location. Would any of you say the under dash is a much easier installing then the pillar mount? ie routing of wire and cable through firewall and connecting to 12V and ground and dimmer.
The EGT T/C I see many styles. Look like the clamp on one is the best from easy install? On the non clamp one, did anyone drill and tap the pipe for a thread in one? ie no weld?
Was wondering if anyone could take the time to show with pic or describe the tap in locations for the EGT T/C and the Boost Pressure.
For the oil pan I was thinking of draining the fluid and just drill and tapping a place for the sensor on the side of the pan. Is that what you guys did?
I will take good pics of mine and post on the form in case this comes up again.
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I did the pillar style and I used a long piece of plastic 1/4 in hose that I snaked down the pillar and left the hose in there. Then just slid the wires and boost line in hose and it was a piece of cake and now are protected in hose.
I drilled in the EX manifold and threaded it in.
The trans has a plug you just remove and install sensor
Here are great instructions and pics / dimmer works on guages with first link
Gauge Installation - 1994-1997 Power Stroke FAQ
1994-1997 Power Stroke FAQ - Pyrometer Probe Install
DieselManor - Installation Sheets
I drilled in the EX manifold and threaded it in.
The trans has a plug you just remove and install sensor
Here are great instructions and pics / dimmer works on guages with first link
Gauge Installation - 1994-1997 Power Stroke FAQ
1994-1997 Power Stroke FAQ - Pyrometer Probe Install
DieselManor - Installation Sheets
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i used this fuse tap in fuse box for lights to guages, just add second fuse fuse tap pictures from trucks photos on webshots
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I think that's a great price. I don't know much about Stewart Warner, but I'd go with the black faces and put green bulb covers on the bulbs to make her look factory.
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