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Looks like there are bigger fuel tank options based on what I was reading 3 different tank sizes.
That's what I want to know. What are the size options for a long bed. I'm not interested in larger options for a short bed. I'm hoping for something like at least a 60 gallon long bed option.
 

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I was given what must be the other color brochure by my dealer. It's called "All-New 2017 Super Duty Preview Guide", is eight pages and has a blue 2017 F250 on the cover. It looks just like a the type of brochure that would be given to customers but the fine print make it clear its "intended for use by Ford dealership personnel only". It was the only one he had and knowing he'd be selling me a new 2017 as soon as they can be ordered he gave it to me.
 

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any word on transmissions?


Everything I've read on the 2017 from Ford says the 6 speed transmission will carry over. That was a disappointment. I was expecting a 7 or 8 speed transmission as a way of increasing the fleet MPG ratings that all manufacturers are tasked with improving in the coming years.
 

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I'm glad Ford finally re-designed the Super Duty. It was time. The current design is simply a re-hash of a re-hash of a re-hash of the 1999 model. Kudos to Ford for starting over.

Having said that, I'm not sure the fully boxed frame with welded-through crossmembers is a step in the right direction. GM has had something similar since their HD lineup was created in 2001, and those frames left a lot to be desired, especially in terms of longevity in the Northeast. Maybe the steel Ford will use is of better quality, maybe the design lends itself to minimizing corrosion over time, I don't know, but the traditional frame rails in all the older Super Dutys have stood the test of time, I wonder how this new design will fare. The frame rails on my '03 look really good 13 years later, and if I needed to, I could replace cross members with moderate effort. I'm not sure you could ever replace the new style crossmembers.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see this new truck in the real world.
 

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Fuel Tank Size Options...None, I believe

Looks like there are bigger fuel tank options based on what I was reading 3 different tank sizes.
From all I've read on the 2017, both Ford writings and independent writers, the only options with respect to fuel tank size will be dictated by which wheel base version you buy...just as it currently is. What did you read that lead you to believe there would be three different options?
 

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From all I've read on the 2017, both Ford writings and independent writers, the only options with respect to fuel tank size will be dictated by which wheel base version you buy...just as it currently is. What did you read that lead you to believe there would be three different options?
Below is what my friend Bobby Williams (Fleet Director Sunrise Ford Fontana Ca.) posted on the Southern Ca. Powerstrokes Website on the ordering forum last September. Read way down and it mentions new fuel tank options.



  1. Because owners depend on their truck for the most difficult jobs, we made it the toughest Super Duty ever(1), featuring:


    • First-in-class(2) high-strength, military-grade aluminum-alloy truck body and box for improved capability and improved dent- and ding-resistance over the previous generation
    • All-new fully boxed frame, built from 95 percent high-strength steel for a foundation that’s up to 24 times stiffer than the previous generation
    • Together, high-strength steel and high-strength aluminum alloy help reduce weight by up to 350 lbs. Ford is reinvesting this weight savings everywhere it counts to help give customers even more towing and hauling capability than ever before for Super Duty
    • Upgraded driveline and suspension components (axle, transfer case and driveshaft) to manage the increased torque, towing and payload
    • 12 million miles of Built Ford Tough testing so it’s designed to meet or exceed our most demanding customers’ requirements
    • All-new conventional hitch design allows for improved towing capability(1)
    The Smartest

    Technologies

    The all-new Super Duty Pickup is designed with the latest available technologies, helping owners work harder while marking their work experience easier:


    • Class-exclusive(2) Adaptive Steering
    • Up to seven cameras, including:
      • Class-exclusive(2) 360-degree camera with split-view display
      • Center high-mounted stop lamp (CHMSL) camera
      • Class-exclusive(2) customer-placed trailer camera
      • Class-exclusive(2) Trailer Reverse Guidance
    • SYNC 3
    • Class-exclusive(2) BLIS (Blind Spot Information System) with cross-traffic alert and trailer tow
    • Lane Departure Warning system
    • Class-exclusive(2) adaptive cruise control and collision warning with brake support
    • Class-exclusive(2) inflatable outboard rear safety belts on Crew Cab models
    • Class-exclusive(2) Trailer Tire Pressure Monitoring System
    • Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) now standard on F-350 DRW models
    Exterior Features

    From the very first look, it’s clear this is a truck that’s designed for work with these available features:


    • Larger cabs with new 170-degree doors on SuperCab models
    • Class-exclusive(2) quad-beam LED headlamps with configurable daytime running lamps
    • Class-exclusive(2) LED side-mirror spotlights
    • LED security approach lamps
    • LED box lighting and tailgate LED
    • LED taillamps
    • Class-exclusive(2) remote tailgate release with power lock
    • Class-exclusive(2) next-generation tailgate step
    • Class-exclusive(2) BoxLink with premium locking cleats
    • Class-exclusive(2) power-deployable running boards
    • Extended running boards that offer easier access to the bed
    Interior Conveniences

    New comfort and convenience features put the emphasis on owner satisfaction with:


    • New seat designs with new materials and colors
    • Class-exclusive(2) standard second-row flat load floor with new lockable storage on Crew Cab models
    • Class-exclusive(2) available multicontour front seats with Active Motion
    • Class-exclusive(2) available 110-volt power outlets with a combined maximum output of 400 watts
    • Class-exclusive(2) available inflatable rear safety belts on Crew Cab models
    • New instrument panel with dual glove box and center console with sliding cupholders and expansive storage
    • Intelligent Access with push-button start
    • Ambient interior lighting
    • Enhanced upfitter switches relocated to the overhead console; now includes six switches with more total amps
    • Twin-panel moonroof on Crew Cab models
    Most Capable

    The all-new Super Duty Pickup is designed to be the most capable Super Duty ever, carrying more, towing more and delivering the most combined horsepower and torque(1)


    • The first-in-class(2) high-strength, military-grade aluminum-alloy body and box reduces weight, allowing engineers to strengthen the frame for increased capability
    • All-new conventional hitch design allows for improved towing capability(1)
    • Highest-ever 5th-wheel/gooseneck towing, conventional towing and payload capabilities of any Super Duty(1)
    • Increased fuel tank capacities for greater driving range
    Powerful

    Compared to previous Super Duty models, the 2017 powertrains are designed to deliver more combined horsepower and torque than ever before with proven engine and transmission combinations:
    6.7L Power StrokeDiesel V8


    • TorqShift 6-speed automatic transmission
    • B20 biodiesel capable
    6.2L FFV V8 Gas Engine


    • New TorqShift-G 6-speed automatic transmission (F-250)
    • TorqShift 6-speed automatic transmission (F-350)
    • Available dual batteries
    • Available CNG/​Propane Gaseous Engine Prep Package





    The Toughest, Smartest and Most Capable Super Duty Ever.


    • Class-exclusive(1) technical innovations help owners improve and enhance their comfort, productivity and towing confidence
      • Standard Features
        • Flat load floor on SuperCab and Crew Cab models
      • Available Features
        • 110-volt outlets with a combined maximum output of 400 watts
        • 360-degree camera with split-view display
        • Adaptive cruise control and collision warning with brake support
        • Adaptive Steering
        • BLIS (Blind Spot Information System) with cross-traffic alert and trailer tow
        • BoxLink with premium locking cleats
        • Customer-placed trailer camera
        • Inflatable outboard rear safety belts (Crew Cab)
        • LED side-mirror spotlights
        • Multicontour seats with Active Motion
        • Next-generation tailgate step
        • Quad-beam LED headlamps
        • Remote tailgate release with power lock
        • Trailer Reverse Guidance
        • Trailer Tire Pressure Monitoring System
    • First-in-class(1) high-strength, military-grade aluminum-alloy truck body and box
    • Increased towing and payload capacities
    • Powertrains with more combined power and torque
    • Highest-ever 5th-wheel/gooseneck towing, conventional towing and payload capabilities of any Super Duty(2)
    • 12 million miles of Built Ford Tough testing so it's designed to meet or exceed our most demanding customers’ requirements
    • Up to seven available cameras, including the class-exclusive(1) 360-degree camera with split-view display


    Bobby Williams
    Director of Fleet Sales


 

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FordWilly above mentions that he is not interested in fuel capacity options for a short bed...which is fine...but that is EXACTLY the config that everyone is screaming for more capacity. The Crew Short bed crowd has been begging for a 40 or 50 since 1999.....lol. my riding mower holds more fuel than my truck...... :(
 

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FordWilly above mentions that he is not interested in fuel capacity options for a short bed...which is fine...but that is EXACTLY the config that everyone is screaming for more capacity. The Crew Short bed crowd has been begging for a 40 or 50 since 1999.....lol. my riding mower holds more fuel than my truck...... :(
Kenval ---- My wife had a short bed and we felt the same way as you. Seemed like we were always looking for a station. But I only use long beds, that's why I I'm looking for long bed increased capacities. Lets hope we all get what we need. ---- Ford should address lots of issues such as locking fuel/def caps or locking fuel flap. I'm mad that my heated seats wont work on remote start in the winter. For 70 grand they should give more thought to many things.
 

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Stant makes a green locking diesel fuel cap, price is about $15. Maybe a little cheaper on eBay or Amazon. Stant number 10510D

Stant 10510D Locking Fuel Cap | eBay
Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered one for a backup. Back in 2010 when I heard of the water in fuel problem I started searching for a locking cap.I tried one made for a multi fuel ford truck and it has worked perfectly for 5 years now. Forget the brand. Has never thrown a code. It was yellow but works just fine. I will put the new one in my storage compartment just in case.
 

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Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered one for a backup. Back in 2010 when I heard of the water in fuel problem I started searching for a locking cap.I tried one made for a multi fuel ford truck and it has worked perfectly for 5 years now. Forget the brand. Has never thrown a code. It was yellow but works just fine. I will put the new one in my storage compartment just in case.
The reason for the Yellow, Green and Black colors on gas caps is to help identify the fuel the vehicle requires. Black is gasoline, Yellow is FFV, gasoline up to E85 (alcohol) and Green is Diesel.

Otherwise they are they same and will work.
 

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I hear ya Willy. Wish the heated seats would heat faster also...and be a bit warmer...maybe like a low/high setting....not just on/off. And yes...aftermarket does offer locking gas caps...but we shouldn't have to. Ford should make the doors lock for both the diesel AND the DEF. At least give us a locking door or both caps to make it harder to steal fuel or mess with it. Lots of people love to mess with trucks if they feel you are Anti-Prius.....lol. And also....PLEASE make the door handle a little harder to pop open with the punch of a screwdriver. I think Superduty owners in South Texas have the double double going against us.....Most desired stolen truck AND the easiest to break in to and steal. When I go into Bass Pro....it's 50% chance my truck will be there when I come out....and I am not joking. It is that bad at certain times of the year.
 

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well here's a better ? does anyone know when these bad boys will hit the lot?? like a defenite date? or is this still up in the air? (waiting patiently to trade in)
 

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According to Donlen Fleet Management;
initial order acceptance - 4/13/2016
production scheduling begins - 5/26/2016
Production starts - 7/11/2016
This is for F250, F350, F450, F550

Anyone have any official word from Ford?
 

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If they haven't improved the multiple problems with respect to the DEF system from the past several year models, you will not NEED anyone to mess with the DEF tank to have issues with it......
 

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On another post it was told the order banks could open up 4/13/16! I'll definitely be looking into. The nav screen just died on our 2011 Fusion (which is thankfully a main reason we took the extended warranty) so I have the perfect excuse to pop back into the fleet department.

Saw a 2017 King Ranch 350 dually at our auto show yesterday and man these new trucks are beasts. Can't wait to get my hands on one!

Edit: just saw the post from unfinished with the dates.
 
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