If you honestly want to do EVERYTHING to the motors, then the 7.3 currently is the winner in all-out modified form. The 7.3 is capable of over 680hp. I have not seen a 6.0 in that league. There could be, but I haven't seen one. As far as the cummins. Please, they are so far out of our reach right now it's rediculous. I watched two in kentucky that were sick. One dynoed 754hp and the torque shot of the dynojet chart really quick and didn't break back into the graph until way late in the run. That was on #2 only! I also saw a cummins that "only" made like 667 while spinning the wheels inside the tires on the rollers. The next day he ran a 10.77 @ 122mph. #2 only as well! Course there was a cheby that made 772.5hp spraying the crap out of it. But 772.5 nonetheless. We've got our work cut-out for us. But currently, the 7.3 holds the title between the fords in all-out modified form. If you just want to plug something in, and go have a good bit of fun, the 6.0 is great for that. As long as it doesn't lift a head. Pick whichever you want, but if you can't wait on the stroke, the old doodge is the killer right now and always has been. Hopefully we'll catch em some time soon. Darn doodges. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vomit.gif