6.0L Torque
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I read something interesting about the Dodge 615 ft-lbs of torque. It only occurs when both the AC and electric fan are on. Both of these rob power from the drivetrain so Dodge increases the fuel enough to recover that loss while the available power to the drive train remains the same. Interesting form of specmanship.
I already thought it was interesting that Ford cuts the fuel between some of the shifts but the new Dodge scheme is downright deceitful.
I already thought it was interesting that Ford cuts the fuel between some of the shifts but the new Dodge scheme is downright deceitful.
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I've seen the torqshift specifications quoted on this site. From memory, the upper limit of the shaft input torque was 600 ft-lb. So, I don't think that Ford has much headroom to bump the torque. Plenty of aftermarket chip/module folks are learning that the hard way.
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I don't know if I would call it deceitful? You are still getting the advertised power. Kind of like GM detuning in 1st and 5th gear. I don't know if Ford does it but w/ Allison they detune 1st and 5th. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif Really listing power at the flywheel is deceiving. They ought to list power at the ground.
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I don't know if I would call it deceitful? You are still getting the advertised power. Kind of like GM detuning in 1st and 5th gear. I don't know if Ford does it but w/ Allison they detune 1st and 5th. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif Really listing power at the flywheel is deceiving. They ought to list power at the ground.
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I agree about listing power to the ground. My comment on "deceitful" is with respect to the marketing of 615 ft-lbs over the old 600 ft-lbs. People are allowed to think they are getting more where it counts (to the ground) but they are not.
Muscle cars of the 60s practiced a form of deceit. The government stepped in and HP specs changed dramatically.
I don't know if I would call it deceitful? You are still getting the advertised power. Kind of like GM detuning in 1st and 5th gear. I don't know if Ford does it but w/ Allison they detune 1st and 5th. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif Really listing power at the flywheel is deceiving. They ought to list power at the ground.
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I agree about listing power to the ground. My comment on "deceitful" is with respect to the marketing of 615 ft-lbs over the old 600 ft-lbs. People are allowed to think they are getting more where it counts (to the ground) but they are not.
Muscle cars of the 60s practiced a form of deceit. The government stepped in and HP specs changed dramatically.
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Muscle cars of the 60s practiced a form of deceit. The government stepped in and HP specs changed dramatically.
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I would think the Insurance Companys had as much to do with the revised h.p. ratings as the Gov. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif
Muscle cars of the 60s practiced a form of deceit. The government stepped in and HP specs changed dramatically.
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I would think the Insurance Companys had as much to do with the revised h.p. ratings as the Gov. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif
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