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2003 was troublesome
2004 was partly ok
2005 I ordered - flawless as far as the engine goes

So that's 2 years which will mean 2009 MJ in 2008 for the 6.4. If you change every year anyhow why not try it out? I would do.

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HERE is an interesting article on the subject. Funny thing upon the announcement the stock goes down. That's what 50 million dollars in warranty claims on the 6.0 in two years will do for you. Yes I said it 50 million. You just gotta hope and believe they will not deliver more trash like the 6.0 (at least the early ones, I throw that bone for you guys with "perfect flawless" trucks although I think the motor is and has been one big problem no matter what year it is) because if they do, it will doom them financially. Three fourths of the super duties sold are sold with powerstroke engines, if the 6.4 launch is anywhere close to being as problematic as the 6.0 you can forgetaboutit. They have lost in my estimation at least 10-15 percent of their diesel truck customer base (and that is probably low) over the 6.0 debacle. They just can't take another hit like that.
 

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Ford at the moment has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peal. If this "NEW better" diesel is a problem or a stinker it might be the last straw for Ford. Even the die hard Ford guys/gals are looking elsewhere.
 

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Ford at the moment has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peal. If this "NEW better" diesel is a problem or a stinker it might be the last straw for Ford. Even the die hard Ford guys/gals are looking elsewhere.

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On edit or to add to that. I'm betting the new bigger, stronger, more power, bigger load Toyota Tundra soon coming will be a big hit. I'm predicting that it will eat directly into F-150 sales and the F-150 is about the only thing keeping Ford going. If you all do some research Toyota has designed this new Tundra as a F-150 beater.
 

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Well Ford has made a public media press release regarding the 6.4L diesel engine for F-series trucks. Here's the link below to their media press release website:

Ford Media Press Releases

Looks like it is official now.
 

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Well Ford has made a public media press release regarding the 6.4L diesel engine for F-series trucks. Here's the link below to their media press release website:

Ford Media Press Releases

Looks like it is official now.

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I agree it is now official, time to open the forum.
 

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Yea, but the Offical Engine information won't be released untill the release of the Truck, Sept 28th /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I'm betting diesel jay will have some specs on it very soon.
 

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And CGI as blockmaterial is out of question?

sept 2003
"Fundamentally incorrect. I have no preference for or against the technology. It's just that Nav has no interest in it for the US market, despite inferences from other sources that it could find applications.

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Anyway, GM is now revealing the HighTech of their new V8 diesel.

"Technical highlights of the engine include aluminum cylinder heads with integrated manifolding, compacted graphite iron (CGI) block for a strong engine base and fracture-split main bearing caps and connecting rods for a precise fit. A high-pressure, common-rail fuel system is used, which has the ability to inject fuel five times per combustion event to control noise and emissions."

GM New Diesel V8
 

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Look Ford has officially announced the engine. It is time to open a forum. Folks want to talk about it. It is off topic here, but I appreciate the site allowing us to continue the thread. I think Jason should flip the switch, since there is a lot of excitement and trepidation building and folks want to talk about it. As the internets premier Ford Diesel site, it is time.
 

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Greetings,

Someone owns and runs this site and makes the calls.
But it behooves me why, when Customers are requesting something over and over and over, that the owner would not provide what the customer wants.

I can see posatives and negatives for why not to have a 6.4 and why to have a 6.4 forum. But you would think that 'the customers' would have a significant impact on what a site offers...

On the 6.4 itself.
(Knowing that 10% is nothing) If it is supposed to get 'say' 10% better MPG, and the 6.0 was supposed to get 10% better MPG, and the 7.3 was supposed to get 10% better MPG, just what MPG were the first ones getting, 5 mpg???

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Re: 6.4 Forum now running with some nice info.

I hope that all of you se the difference going from 7,3 litre to 6 liter and getting 10% improvement in mpg by reducing the engine size 17 %

and then making it again by reducing fuel consumption another 10 % but this time the engine is 6,6 % BIGGER
 

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Re: 6.4 Forum now running with some nice info.

In fact the 7.3 get better MPG than the 6.0. No doubt about that. Maybe a bigger engine gets better MPG? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif For me not logical but this is Ford. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

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Re: 6.4 Forum now running with some nice info.

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I hope that all of you se the difference going from 7,3 litre to 6 liter and getting 10% improvement in mpg by reducing the engine size 17 %

and then making it again by reducing fuel consumption another 10 % but this time the engine is 6,6 % BIGGER

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Greetings,

You would have to elaborate more. Seriously, I am not sure I even comprehend what your getting at... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I am not that knowledgable regarding engines, displacement, increase or decrease in HP/TQ and loss or gain in MPG. The best I do is understand that better injectors mean more controlled fuel deliv. in smaller dropletts with more frequent...um, what is the word...instances/episodes. I cant remember the word they use for the each time fuel is delivered and exploded. Doh!

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Re: 6.4 Forum now running with some nice info.

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In fact the 7.3 get better MPG than the 6.0. No doubt about that. Maybe a bigger engine gets better MPG? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif For me not logical but this is Ford. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

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The real issue is actually MPGPP (Miles Per Gallon Per Pound). Here, we are all driving the most efficient four wheeled vehicles on earth. Calculate the MPGPP of the Prius? All factors considered, the 7.3 is far more economical and reliable and the 6.0 is a bit more powerful but prone to failure because of Ford "improvements." /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Ford needs to continue with their 1950's technology iron with the strapped on alloy NASA (PSD TD) parts in order to stay in business. The 6.0 strayed from this working model. Too bad. Unless the 6.4 is a hit and offered in the Expedition, my next purchase will be a GMC Diesel HD Suburban. Aside from that, I sure dolove my hopped up 7.3 and plan to keep it in my fleet until it goes. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

P.S. Wait until the near zero sulpher diesel comes out. It will cost 20% more than gas and will be required in any >12K lb GRVW diesel vehicle. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vulnerable.gif (hint --Build your biodiesel still now) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif
 
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