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Personally Guys, I talk with dozens of folks who have done the egr and stock exhaust delete and there is not one that regrets it. A dozen or more have had me install Hydro Kits on their trucks and see even more gas mileage, along with Performance. If anyone is interested in it lmk and I can help you out. I can also help with any on site performance mods. These trucks will surprise you when having the right things done.
 

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Excellent point!

We are such a visual society if it looks like a good idea we buy into it. Crap we elect people not based on qualifications but looks.

Yes the Air looks cleaner, but is it better for the Environment?

Everyone talks about cleaner Air and Low Carbon foot print.

If you take into account the extra fuel, Air, Def Fluid used, plus the CO2 produced, is the carbon foot print larger.

Just like Ethanol yes you can lower emissions but at what cost? How much energy does it take to produce Ethanol?

It all depends on what your using the truck for? Hauling Delete the DPF ASAP, everyday driving keep it.

Delete the DPF you will love the towing ability.
Not to mention the plastic for distribution...
 

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Fellas,
I am subscribing to the thread. I am also very interested in doing a DPF/EGR delete on my 2012 6.7. My main goal here would be to increase the longevity of the truck. I am a one truck, trive it till she wears out and enjoy while you have it kinda guy.

Again, i want to increase longevity and hear the turbo once again more so than just to have extra power.

However, i am hesitient as this is a new engine and sure would hate to have to fix this expense truck with no warranty....

Thoughts/suggestions appreciated.

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I don't have a 6.7... yet. Still running my 01' 7.3L and on B100 I make myself.

I do like the new trucks but the B20 thing for me is BS as my work purchases my chemicals for the biodiesel so it's $0.05/L! I'd have to be a moron to want to get on the "cocaine" addiction gas station again.

Wondering if anyone has run B100 in the 6.7 and what issues are.

But on the dpf delete and stuff.... here in BC, Canada, if you register higher than a GVW of 5000kg (I'm registered at 8200kg) you don't have any aircare emissions testing so you can do whatever the hell you want. :wink2:
 

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I to would like to do this. I like the thought of no more DEF and hearing the turbo. I miss the smell of diesel too. It just dont seem like a diesel if you can't hear the turbo, smell diesel, and hear the clatter of the engine


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I just want to know if the DPF delete, exhaust, and getting rid of the DEF fluid is the right thing to do. I have a 2012 6.7 and i love the truck, and i have not had any issues up to the 61k that i have on it now. I'm weary of what will happen at 100k as i had a ton of issues with a 6.0 at that mileage. I like the idea of getting rid of the DEF and doing a programmer of some type, but only to increase the life of the motor. If the motors are built with these things on them, is it best to keep them on the motor? Ford House mechanics are going to do what keeps them in business and out of trouble, and a performance house is going to try and change everything you have to make a sale. I just want a straight pro and con perspective from someone that knows and understands the ins and outs of the 6.7 and what altering the motor could potentially do....both good and bad. I just want what is best solution for my motor platform to get the most time out of it! For me, they are too damn expensive to buy a new one every year or two!

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I officially have my unlock code and sourcing out delete components, any direction on erg delete and regen crap is welcome, local shops having trouble sourcing. Are we compatible 2011-13 kits?
 

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I just want to know if the DPF delete, exhaust, and getting rid of the DEF fluid is the right thing to do. I have a 2012 6.7 and i love the truck, and i have not had any issues up to the 61k that i have on it now. I'm weary of what will happen at 100k as i had a ton of issues with a 6.0 at that mileage. I like the idea of getting rid of the DEF and doing a programmer of some type, but only to increase the life of the motor. If the motors are built with these things on them, is it best to keep them on the motor? Ford House mechanics are going to do what keeps them in business and out of trouble, and a performance house is going to try and change everything you have to make a sale. I just want a straight pro and con perspective from someone that knows and understands the ins and outs of the 6.7 and what altering the motor could potentially do....both good and bad. I just want what is best solution for my motor platform to get the most time out of it! For me, they are too damn expensive to buy a new one every year or two!

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I'd like to hear others thoughts also.
My 2011 6.7 had CEL 'false alarms' so I never felt confident real damage would not ultimately occur from EGR/DPF issues. So I deleted / tuned it and it ran flawlessly.
Now have a 2014 6.7 and with less than 200 miles had my first CEL (dealer said was a EGR code) so thinking about doing to this truck also.
 

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Trying to reduce my carbon footprint by having a more efficient machine....H and S delete has improved mileage by 1.6 mpg. No DEF and no cleaning of DPF I figure breakeven at 30,000 miles and worth replacing the system every other year for the smog cert.
 

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Well, I'll reiterate the concern that some have for the environment. ...And this is not political! Below is a link that describes the health and environmental effects of NOX.

The health effects of NOX in the atmosphere is nothing new. Diesel engine engineers worked with ammonia injection as far back as 1957 as a way to catalyze NOX in the exhaust system. You can do some research for yourself to understand the impact of diesel engine emissions on the environment. I for one do not want our cities to look like Beijing. ..or like our big cities once did. So when someone asks for opinions about modifying the exhaust systems on these trucks, it is unfair to villainize those who have an informed opinion about the impact on the environment. This is actually more important to me than what it will do or not do for YOUR engine. Read this also:

Selective catalytic reduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Health and Environmental Impacts of NOx - Nitogen Dioxide - Reports - Research Library - XRTLAB


BEIJING:
http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/@api/deki/files/8385/beijing_smog.jpg?size=bestfit&width=420&height=315&revision=1
 

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There is far too much information out there that is not political for any one of us to be uninformed about why these environmental regulations have evolved. Laws to reduce NOX and other pollutants in the US atmosphere go back to ~1971.

I have children and grandchildren that i pray will have better air to breathe than this:

Manhattan Smog Photos 1966 - Business Insider

YES I DO have an opinion that I WILL share about removing emission management equipment from these trucks. AND YES when you ask an opinion about this on this forum you will probably always hear some of this. SO consider ALL aspects when making your decision about whether to remove EGR/DPF!
 

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Regen, and DEF smells worse than sulpher!

:thumbsup:I sure all the smog stuff is nice, feel good feelings. Personally, EPA could care less, then just want their cut..period !! (remember only 6% of EPA staff were needed to be fully fuctional during the shutdown, the other 94% have to find ways to justify their funding, EPA stated this)

I would like to recover all that fuel being wasted for a 20 min cycle while EPA crap is kicking in. I thought saving fuel or less consumption would be better for the environment? I know my mileage drops 10MPG during this unessesary time period, both mechanically measured and through the console. I noticed nobody here has mentioned just how BAD that DEF smells coming through ours pipes either?
I have kids too, they have far more to worry about..:thumbsup:
 

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It isn't just the general environment that is improved. With my old 7.3, starting it on a cold morning and running it long enough to get the windows cleaned would leave the front of the house and garage smelling like diesel exhaust for a couple of hours. The new truck smells like it is running on propane and the smell goes away immediately. I'll keep the system as long as it continues to function.
 

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Well now there you go Ford427, getting political and emotionally attached to smoke and turbine squeals. The EPA is the only reason that we are not breathing air like China. And NO the exhaust gas from a modern diesel engine is not more toxic than a 2002 diesel engine. AND yes IF we keep current emissions regulations in place, our children and grandchildren WILL have a lot worse things to worry about. I encourage everyone here to do a little digging to learn how Nox emissions impacted cancer rates before DEF and DPF.

I worked in the petrochemical industry for 35 years. The air quality around large petrochemical corridors very obviously changed post Nox reduction regulations that required exhaust treatment on boilers, gas turbines and fossil fueled engines.

I am old enough to remember seeing NY. Atlanta, New Orleans and other large cities with dense dark air.

http://www.etest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/20080000_Emissions_of_NO2_from_Modern_Diesel_Vehicles_Witt-Press-2008.pdf
 

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I thought I'd chime in on biodiesel and the 6.7. I've been running 100% biodiesel in my 2011 F250 for 12,000 miles. Ever since I bought it. It has 43,000 miles on it now. I'm so impressed with this truck. It's rated for 20% biodiesel, and I'm sure Ford over engineered everything when they designed and built this motor. It's never missed a beat. It regens less with biodiesel. I change oil every 5,000 miles. I let the oil sit for a week to see if there was any fuel dilution and there was no biodiesel that settled on top of the oil. I also change fuel filters and carefully inspected the one I could inspect from the rail. No separation of the filter media from the housing. The adhesive or glue Ford uses holds up completely fine to biodiesel. I make the biodiesel myself and am anal about the quality of my fuel as I sell the excess fuel to other diesel owners and friends. I put a dose of Lucas fuel injector cleaner and conditioner in every batch. As well as a winter additive to combat any gelling in colder temps for winter. I too am looking into getting a DPF delete to save the motor any regen cycle. Not sure if I should, if I need to change the exhaust, or leave it stock. Power train warranty is up at 50,000 miles as far as I know. Not 100,000 like previous power strokes. Or am I missing something?
 

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I thought I'd chime in on biodiesel and the 6.7. I've been running 100% biodiesel in my 2011 F250 for 12,000 miles. Ever since I bought it. It has 43,000 miles on it now. I'm so impressed with this truck. It's rated for 20% biodiesel, and I'm sure Ford over engineered everything when they designed and built this motor. It's never missed a beat. It regens less with biodiesel. I change oil every 5,000 miles. I let the oil sit for a week to see if there was any fuel dilution and there was no biodiesel that settled on top of the oil. I also change fuel filters and carefully inspected the one I could inspect from the rail. No separation of the filter media from the housing. The adhesive or glue Ford uses holds up completely fine to biodiesel. I make the biodiesel myself and am anal about the quality of my fuel as I sell the excess fuel to other diesel owners and friends. I put a dose of Lucas fuel injector cleaner and conditioner in every batch. As well as a winter additive to combat any gelling in colder temps for winter. I too am looking into getting a DPF delete to save the motor any regen cycle. Not sure if I should, if I need to change the exhaust, or leave it stock. Power train warranty is up at 50,000 miles as far as I know. Not 100,000 like previous power strokes. Or am I missing something?

Your 6.7L diesel engine warranty is 5 years / 100,000 miles just like any prior year Power Stroke.

I like your post because it shows that you are careful about your use of B100 fuel and reporting your findings which is quite helpful to others. As for the deletion of the aftertreatment system I see no reason to as you report fewer regens to begin with and it seems your use of biodiesel is having no adverse affect on the system. So far, I have yet to see any provable ill-effect on any 6.4l or 6.7L engine directly related to the aftertreatment system - actually, it's the other way around. Turbo, fuel system, EGR cooler and engine failures can poison/damage the catalysts. Anyway, good luck with it!
 

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Ford Doctor, thanks for the response. And after your post, I'm going to leave it on then. Especially since it's doing so well. So, what warranty stops at 50,000 miles? the bumper to bumper ended at 36,000 miles. Then something else stops at 50,000 miles. Or am I mistaken? Thanks again.
 

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Ford Doctor, thanks for the response. And after your post, I'm going to leave it on then. Especially since it's doing so well. So, what warranty stops at 50,000 miles? the bumper to bumper ended at 36,000 miles. Then something else stops at 50,000 miles. Or am I mistaken? Thanks again.
3yr/36k bumper to bumper
5yr/60k powertrain (transmission)
5yr/60k Safety Restraint System (airbag)
5yr/60k Roadside Asst.
5yr/unlimited corrosion
5yr/100k diesel engine
 
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