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This is my first post on this forum.

I'm active duty military and am moving cross country from Norfolk, VA to Monterey, CA. I was driving a 2005 F-350 CC DRW towing a 20' enclosed car trailer.

I left Norfolk on Friday afternoon around 2:00 PM. I had bought a ScanGauge II for the trip and this was first time with it in the truck. Coolant temps on the flat interstate in VA was 190-200 with the EOT about 15-20 degrees above that. I was a little concerned after reading articles on this forum, however they mentioned the 15 degree max was with the truck unloaded, so I thought with the added weight of the trailer (~7.5K lbs) that the difference migh be okay.

Problems started when I got into the mountains of Virginia. I was driving up a long grade and looked down at the scangauge, coolant temp was up to 220 and the EOT was almost 240. I backed off and the coolant crept down immediately, with the EOT following slowly.

Less than 5 miles later going up another grade I heard a beep looked down at the gauge cluster and saw the stock coolant temp gauge rising rapidly. I quickly looked in the right mirror to pull off the road and saw white smoke pouring out of the exhaust.

Pulled over to the side of the road and popped the hood. Degas bottle was completely empty. State trooper pulled over in front a few minutes later and helped arrange a tow truck. I left the trailer in a local impound lot and arranged for a tow truck to take the truck 30 miles up the road to the nearest Ford Dealer.

I slept in the truck Friday night outside the service entrance (no hotels had rooms within walking distance) and walked in the door on Saturday morning. Service dept was not open but there was a tech working and he took a look at the truck. He spent less than 20 minutes and came back and said the EGR failed and would need to be replaced. Quoted around $2K parts and labor and said it was a 2 day job.

Car dealer helped me arrange a hotel and rental car (they've been great so far). Tech said he wouldn't know if the EGR and Oil Cooler was the extent of the damage until after he's replaced it. I understand that. They have the parts in stock which is good.

This definately makes me nervous for the rest of my trip. I didn't get very far on the first try. Financially this hurts because I'm paying for a hotel room, rental car, and impound fees for the trailer until this gets fixed. Fingers crossed EGR and Oil Cooler replacement gets me back on the road.

Anything I should talk to the dealer about during the repair? If I get in deeper than I am now I'll probably have to abandon the truck in WV to make it to my next duty station in time. I have no idea yet what I'm going to do about the trailer.

What a nightmare.

Duncan
 

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2 grandish is a tad on the high side,and so is the "two day" estimate. My very first time into the engine was for this and I had it done in 10 hours knowing nothing but what I have read. Anything over 8 for just the EGR/oil cooler combo and they are dragging feet. If it is head gaskets, this is a whole other thing.

Keep in touch with the service department.
If you have blown the head gaskets:

Do some research on machine shops in the area. You should get your heads to a qualified machine shop to check the heads for straight/flat and have them magnafluxed for cracks. The exhaust valve seat area seems to be the most common area for cracking. Keep in mind that the machine shop can not remove more than 0.07
If that is necessary, you will need new heads (same as if they find a crack).

Also, try to find the ARP headstuds. You can try this place, where they are the cheapest I have seen, but they are in Cali and would have to get them to you in a timely fashion. Ask if those studs come with the correct lube. They should.


About your trailer:
If your staying at a motel/hotel with a good sized parking lot, you might want to consider asking the manager if you can have the trailer towed to a spot in their lot that would be out of their way. Then factor in towing costs versus whatever the impound charges a day. IF your head gaskets are gone, you may be there for a while.
Sorry about your luck. Keep us in the loop
 

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Well,

Dealer in WV replaced the EGR and oil cooler. Truck ran good and I was on my way.

Unfortunately...

Only made it as far as Des Moines, IA. I was driving on I-80 and the truck just stopped running. No warning. Also happened in the middle of a construction zone so there was almost no shoulder. I coasted over the side of the road, put the truck in park, and tried to start it. Cranked but did not fire.

Flipped through the Scan Gauge, and ICP when cranking showed only 200psi. Not good. Had the truck towed, again.., to the local Ford dealer. This time the trailer came with.

Tech verified the ICP with his scan tool and they dragged it into the shop with a chain. He said his best guess at this point is a broken branch tube off the HPOP, but there's some other things they'll check as part of the diagnostics. Was almost closing time at the dealer so once again I find myself in a hotel room with a broken truck.

I'm not even 1/2 way there.

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Second dealer got me on the road yesterday morning. Am now in Denver. They found a stuck IPR valve. They said debris from the first repair entered the high pressure oil system and ruined the valve. The inlet screen was visibly deformed. While in there they also replaced the branch tube. How upset should I be at the first dealer? Is this an understandable mistake or should I be trying to get some money back. The IPR installation was another $1,000. Hopefully there are no more issues for the rest of the trip.
 

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If you are a repeat ford buyer, write Ford customer care. I have obtained two refunds that way on work done to an F150 that I had.

Unfortunately, the IPR casualty after an oil coooler job is just one of those things. It happens frequently - almost no matter how clean the machanic is.
 

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Glad you made it safely!
 

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Ford Customer Service wrote me back, saying that after talking with both dealerships I should take it back to the dealership that did the original repair in WV to have them take a second look at it.

Doesn't seem very practical. :) I think I've had enough road trips for this year.

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Glad to hear you made it to the LEFT coast...I salute you for your service. Monterey is a beautiful part of caif. Make sure you see the aquarium.

Monterey Bay Aquarium, California
 
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