[corvair]

Anyone had a problem with the short blue hose connecting from the turbo to intercooler tube blowing off ?
Pulling a 12,500 lb trailer and hitting hills with steady high boost really did me in. I feel the clamp on the tube side being centered between the white lines is not in the right place. Closer to the edge of the blue hose and the tube, I feel this is a better hold and then you can see where the end of the tube is when it`s clamped.
I`ve since raised several hoods on 6.0`s and found everyone`s was ready to pop off being clamped between the lines, and the end of the tube was under the clamp.
This of course will be with the help of some steady high boost pulling. The tube has a grove about 1/2" from the end and the hose has a raised area inside that sets in the grove.
This problem seemed to be popular for the Tow Truck`s Memorial weekend in Az.

 

[4x4Mark]

I haven't blown mine off, but also noticed it was about 3/8" out from all the way pushed in. Multiple attempts to push it all the way in and tighten end up with it back in the original position - with the groove and bead aligning; and this is with normal driving. My guess is the problem may be the blue hose just needs to be a little longer to extend fulling onto the tube. In pulling the tube off to clean/inspect it, it does require a bit of a tug to pull back enough to clear the blue hose - I think this presure is helping to keep it in place. I have not heard of many people blowing the connection apart here; more so at the intake elbow I believe.

Is it helping to move the clamp forward on the hose? I would think it is centered where it is to ensure clamping pressure over bead and a tight fit into the groove.

Mark

 

[ford_doctor]

I actually see more of these popping off. If you sit and look at what you are dealing with, the turbo outlet connector is actually stuck right in the middle of a compound bend. This requires careful alignment of the rubber hose before tightening the clamps. I also see that hose splitting on the edges of the clamps from over tightening and I also see the hoses coming off of the CAC tubes themselves. That would be an indication that the tube if not properly shaped.

 

[550CAT]

I had the clamp on the blue hose break when pulling my 11k fifth wheel up a 6 percent hill. Called the dealer to bring new clamp, they said to drive it in about 10 miles back to the dealer with no boost or air filter. When I got there the diesel tech put a updated hose that from the turbo to the intercooler. No problems since.

 

[moovet]

Ford Doc,
Are you always gonna have some oil seepage from the hot side down on the frame and some up on the hood. I have cleaned mine up and tight'n the clamps carefully and so far 500 miles I am clean, but the coupling feels greasy to the touch. I don't want to go to tight and split the couplings(blue thingy).Thank-you
j.schall

 

[corvair]

My first Ford tech removed the intercooler tube & hose to do a oil issue repair and over tightened the clamps when he reinstalled. Which with the movement of the tube/hose (no bracing) it ripped the hose at the clamp on turbo side. I replaced the hose and removed the staples on the clamp on the turbo side, and moved the clamp closer to the turbo. Where it was clamping it was right over the raised nipple end which helped in the ripping. On the pipe side I clamped it between the lines which ended up no bulge from the end of the pipe which resulted in it blowing off. I thought the right side out but went brain dead on the left.
I also used a heavy clamp (same type as the hose) with a piece of hose underneath the clamp for cushion and clamped it snug over the intercooler tube near the alternator. I then came off of one of the alternator bolts with a piece of flat stock (some bending on the flat stock)to the clamp to stabilize the intercooler tube.

 

[CMOS]

Guys,

There's a new recall that came out about 2 weeks ago to replace the CAC tube with a new design and new clamps.

Have your dealer run an Oasis report and see if you can get this done for a freebie. If you don't fall under the recall, you can BUY the new tube and install it yourself.

CMOS

 

[corvair]

Thanks for the info CMOS, my dealer had sent me the 2 hose`s & tube that connects from the turbo to the intercooler. I put it on this past weekend, my dealer the only one I trust and is treated like one should be is 420 miles round trip and they take care of me quite well. What`s said is I have 2 dealerships that are less than 10 miles from my home but, well enough said.

 

[fpizzo]

[ QUOTE ]
Guys,

There's a new recall that came out about 2 weeks ago to replace the CAC tube with a new design and new clamps.

Have your dealer run an Oasis report and see if you can get this done for a freebie. If you don't fall under the recall, you can BUY the new tube and install it yourself.

CMOS

[/ QUOTE ]

It would be great to buy the "updated" tubes yourself if you dont fall under the customer satisfaction CAC tube replacement...it's not a recall...but why should we??? Ford should cover this for all trucks!

I have an 05 with the suposedly "updated" turbo side blue hose and the "updated" clamp on the black plastic intake tube...I've blown the turbo side and the intake side was slipping...

I cleaned the turbo side and re-installed the hose...by the time I got home the CAC tube had already slipped about a half inch out of the hose. This is a stock truck...and I haven't even towed anything yet...so it wasn't loaded.

And from the pics posted of the blown black intake tube...Ford shouldn't have a problem updating all Trucks that came with the black plastic intake CAC tube.

You would have thought with all the 7.3's blowing boots that Ford would have gotten it right by now... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

Do any of the Banks intercooler guys have the blown CAC tube problem?

 

[RACEFAN1]

"Do any of the Banks intercooler guys have the blown CAC tube problem?"

Blew off the turbo hose coming out of the Banks intercooler this weekend while towing my camper. Fixed it on the side of the highway using the same clamp and blew it off again within 1/4 mi.Fixed it again with a large hose clamp and has held so far. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[fpizzo]

I know with my 7.3 I kept blowing boots...even aftermarket upgraded boots....the thing that fixed it was double clamping it.
There are a few on this site that have even rigged up ways of anchoring the CAC tube to a fixed place on the motor thus not allowing the CAC tube to be "pushed" out of the rubber boot by boost pressure.

I haven't towed yet with my truck...so I have yet to have it happen...though it looks like it's sliding off already...

 

[PSDPlayer]

When I put the "package" onto my truck this happend to me too. The best part was the laughing we all did looking at the odometer. It was a brand new 05 CC Dually Lariat Auto with 600 miles. I drove it for a week while waiting on the parts to come in. On went the MAC intake, Magnaflow 4" turbo back exhaust, and a Diablosport Predator. Due to a mix up with RPM outlet I had gotten an Excursion exaust by accident, so I kept the 4" DP and they sent me the correct rest of the exhaust. While waiting for the rest of the exhaust I ran the truck with just the downpipe for a couple of days. All I can say is holy SH*T.

With the tuner installed, the whistle from the downpipe is REDICULOUS. So I fired it up and went on a little test drive. First gear the truck takes off. SHIFT. Second gear truck lurches forward again. Third gear. BOOM. Truck falls on its face. So we limp back to the house to check out the destruction. Sure enough we are blowing the hot side tube at the intercooler. So I called a buddy of mine who happens to be a FoMoCo powertrain engineer.

He mentioned to me that they had come out with an updated hose and clamp, then a special service message. The service message was to remove tube and completely clean to remove oil residue. Then scuff end of pipe with a coarse sand paper. Apply contact spray adhesive. Allow to become tacky. Install hose coupling to tube first out of vehicle and tighten the clamp. Then put the hose back into the vehicle and reconnect the other ends to the turbo and the intercooler. He said this could be done to either end depending on which one is blowing off. So I did all this and retested.

All I got was a much louder boom when it blew off. I now have the dent in the hood as mentioned above. Next simple solution I found. Remove turbo discharge tube. Get out medium sized Ballpean hammer. Using the round edge of the hammer, flare the pipe outwards to create a 1/8 or 1/4 inch lip around each end of the pipe. Put the hose clamp on the pipe first. Use a little silicone spray to lube the pipe to slide the coupling over the lip. Allow enough of the silicone coupling onto the pipe to get enough to put the clamp on it. Put the clamp as close to the lip as possible. Reinstall both couplings onto metal tube before putting the discharge tube back into the truck.

Now truck runs like a raped ape and I couldn't be any happier. Truck now has a little over 3000 miles with no hose problems whatsoever.

 

[skirk55]

Mine came off and the dealer told me there are no recalls.

 

[EnCMerk]

this is a 5 year old post.... and what year is your truck? The recall campaign would be over by now, I would think.

 

[jimmy]

There could 25 special service messages and 11 service bulletins and still not have a recall on the issue.
Recalls are a very serious safety matter and are either done as required by NHTSA or done voluntarily to avoid the scrutiny of a NHTSA mandated recall.
Service campaigns are an action where they notify you of a serviceable condition that will perform for free with certain conditions as a customer service or to prevent high warranty costs associated with letting some issue go to full breakage problem.

I don't think the hose blow off problem is anything but a service bulletin. Service bulletins can expire when the instructions for a condition are now included in regular service manual info. Service bulletins rarely ever carry an implication of warranty paid past the regular warranty terms.

On aged vehicles often the hose will not be able to be used again after cleaning, sanding, gluing, etc. The hose may have become somewhat saturated with oil and it will repeatedly blow off as the oil will squeeze out when clamps are tightened every time you do any of the recommended procedures and will keep glues from adhering and sanded coarse attaching points are no match for the permeated oil in hose.

 

[lari2001]

yup, I've got the dent in the hood and have had many battles with that hose and clamp. Everytime ford takes that tube off (just had to again just the other day to replace the heat exchanger on the oil cooler) they never properly retighten that clamp. A couple of years ago I put a new clamp on and its only blown off 2 times (both times after ford had the pipe off). it's tricky, there is the oil residue but the angle of the neck on the turbo is not square with the angle of the pipe and it's tough to get that clamp on square with the hose and neck. I'm glad I saw this post, I just picked my truck up today from Ford (I don't think there's anything left to fix), I will need to check the clamp before it blows on me at the worst possible time.
And yes, I realize this thread is 5 years old.

 

[Hoss04]

What is the proper torque for the clamps. I just replaced mine today and used common sense over the white lines to ensure that my clamps were over the cac tube and turbo. I didn't get the torque specs but I tightened until I was a slight indent in the hose. Does this sound right?

 

[skirk55]

I have a 2005 F350 Diesel. The black hose came off and dented my hood! Plus I was pulling a 5th wheel up a hill.

 

[paintingman]

When you put it back on you have to line up the groves on pipe and inside the boot there's a ridge.
Wipe out the boot and you will feel a ridge and the pipe has a grove the ridge fit's in the grove and line up the clamp over top of the groves to press them together. That will keep them from coming apart.

 

[Larry202br]

When you put it back on you have to line up the groves on pipe and inside the boot there's a ridge.
Wipe out the boot and you will feel a ridge and the pipe has a grove the ridge fit's in the grove and line up the clamp over top of the groves to press them together. That will keep them from coming apart.

Mine keeps popping off on the turbo end, not the pipe end. Is there any adhesive that Ford (or anyone) recommends to help hold it on? I torque the clamp to 9 ft/lb (108 in/lb) as recommended by GrampyJim, but it doesn't stay on long.