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I really think that pre Turbo is what matters, as post is already leaving the area and has no effect on engine performance or reliability.

I agree on the boost gauge, though from what I've seen the TP app is pretty accurate for that already.
 

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EGT needs to be measured as close to the exhaust valve as possible. Measurements further downstream are pretty much meaningless. The concern is chamber temperature and the possibility of internal engine damage. The exhaust gasses start to expand and cool as soon as they leave the chamber, so the further away you are the less realistic that measurement is. The common place to install a pyro probe is the LH manifold just aft of the #8 cylinder.
 

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Where is that 3in1 gauge pod from?
 

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dieselmac,
if you decide to go that route let us know. I'm sure we'll be more than willing to share the extended PIDs formulas with you and anyone else for that matter. With that being noted, fellow PSD Torque users including myself will need to collaborate with one another to separate the Powerstroke 6.0L PIDs from the other Ford predefined list because there are multiple versions of certain PIDs. Example, there is a Transmission Fluid Temp (Method 1) & Transmission Fluid Temp (Method 2) and also there is a Transmission Gear & Transmission Gear (Method 2) and there are several cases of parameter differences like these. Sometime today or tomorrow I will try to list all 177 PIDs that Torque Pro combined with the predefined Ford list has to offer.
Thanks, appreciate it.

I think I'm going to try the Engine Link app out. I need to find an OBD/wifi adapter this evening and get it ordered.

Any info you can share would be great.
 

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Any info you can share would be great.
LYL® Elm327 WIFI Wirless OBD2
Find it on Amazon and it works for iPhone/iPad. Its a wifi OBDII, TP supports wifi as long as your using an Android device. Fellow PSD reviews will indicate the only two issues is that the LED indicator is very bright on it and there is no dedicated off switch for it, so you'll have to unplug it in order for it to not draw any power, according to the reviews that is.
 

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After hours of searching I might have found the iPhone wireless EGT probe, I'm not sure if it works with Engine Link or Torque, but it IS wifi, so it was designed in mind for the iPhone/iPad.
AEM Power X-WiFi Wideband UEGO & EGT Wireless Gauge Controller

NOW, for the meat and taters.
PLX makes an OBDII bluetooth dongle (which is essentially what we TP users all have) called Kiwi 2 Bluetooth. PLX also makes a device called the PLX SM-EGT, this is an EGT sensor module that can directly connect to the Kiwi 2 BT. So you can now have an EGT reading through TP, but that's not all, you can also daisy chain up to 32 of these SM and be able to display them through TP.

I must be dreaming...
 

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Dieselmac... where in Texas are you. Im in Georgetown.
 

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Dieselmac...Where in Texas are you? Im in Georgetown.
 

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After hours of searching I might have found the iPhone wireless EGT probe, I'm not sure if it works with Engine Link or Torque, but it IS wifi, so it was designed in mind for the iPhone/iPad.
AEM Power X-WiFi Wideband UEGO & EGT Wireless Gauge Controller

NOW, for the meat and taters.
PLX makes an OBDII bluetooth dongle (which is essentially what we TP users all have) called Kiwi 2 Bluetooth. PLX also makes a device called the PLX SM-EGT, this is an EGT sensor module that can directly connect to the Kiwi 2 BT. So you can now have an EGT reading through TP, but that's not all, you can also daisy chain up to 32 of these SM and be able to display them through TP.

I must be dreaming...
According to the web site it won't work with Torque or Engine Link. They list several apps that work with it, but none have the ability to view or configure Ford's enhanced PIDs. Basically, you just get the basics. One app, DashBoss, does have an add-on for Ford, but it looks like it's geared towards the gasser world.

I have a hard time believing only certain apps can talk with the Kiwi. All the OBD stuff is very standardized, so it seems if an app can read OBD it should work. The Kiwi is just the wifi interface. Maybe the apps they list pay to be there.

I'm going to try and get a hold of somebody in tech support Monday and see if Engine Link or Torque will work.
 

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PLX link: Kiwi 2 Bluetooth

On the bottom of this page it indicates that the Kiwi 2 Bluetooth is compatible with Android apps Dash Command, Torque, OBD Autodoctor, OBD Droidscan Pro, DragFX, alOBD ScanGenPro, and ScanXL for PC.


The Kiwi 2 Wifi is only compatible with iOS apps Dash Command, Rev, Roaders, Speedport, Harry's Lap Timer Pro, BMWhat, OBIE, DragFX, FuzzyCar, and ScanXL for PC

Now I haven't used this configuration yet nor have I found any Powerstroke owners who use this, but if its stated on the site that it is compatible with these apps then I don't see how they wouldn't work.
 

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I was only looking at the wifi page. I'd like to make something work with my iPhone, if possible. Might just run the Engine Link for a while. I bet Kiwi will expand compatibility to Engine Link wifi or Apple will stop being stupid about their Bluetooth (doubtful).

Anyway, my LYL Elm327 is on the way. Should be here mid-next week.
 

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I'm seriously considering trying the PLX Kiwi 2 Bluetooth and adding 2 sensor modules from PLX as well to expand the monitoring capabilities to EGT and fuel pressure as well. I'll be starting some major maintenance upgrades starting this May. I will keep a digital camera on my side throughout these modifications to share with everyone. I'll keep you all posted.
 

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The torque app is a great way of monitoring your 6.0. I have been very happy until 3 weeks ago. I think some of you guys with a lot more knowledge about apps may be able to help me out. I had the FICM replaced and reprogrammed. My Torque app no longer seems to work properly. I used to have EOT,ECT, FICM voltage, batt voltage,tran temp., boost as my display. On the sensors to choose from to reset my screen, I no longer can monitor EOT, my tranny temp is the same as coolant temp and their is no FICM voltage sensor. I tried to delete the app and start over but that did not help. I went to the forum and was quickly overwhelmed by stuff that I know nothing about, help. I really don't want to spend $300 on a monitoring system when the Torque app worked flawless before the repair.
 

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Did you unplug and plug back in the device communicating with the ODBII port?
 

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I have unplugged ODB, deleted the torque app and reinstalled and still not working. I went through the entire set up process again and still not working. I went to the torque forum and read post and thread after thread trying to find out what could be wrong and nothing.
 

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I haven't had to deal with my FICM yet, I don't know that I can be much help to you. But your situation makes me wonder if a name brand monitor would be able to read these same parameters that TP is having difficulties reading. I don't think they would be able to.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you have the Pro version and not the Free version???
The advantage you would have with Pro is the full list of predefined extended Ford PIDs. I'm not sure if you've noticed that in that list there are multiple versions for some specific PIDs.
I know for a fact that EOT for my 6.0 is ONLY read by the "Engine Oil Temp", NOT the one labeled "Engine Oil Temperature". The one labeled Engine Oil Temperature will not give you any reading for a 6.0. I learned that bit of information on the TP forums.
So perhaps its just a matter of selecting the proper PID. If you're are reading this and thinking to yourself, No I've taken that into consideration already and have tried that(after all you did say it worked flawlessly prior to replacing your FICM), then I wouldn't be surprised if the FICM is the culprit. I know very little about the FICM, I'm aware of why folks are having to fix them, so I'm not saying you have another FICM issue but I'd be on the phone with who ever reprogrammed it and I'd be asking them why am I not able to read these parameters off of my monitor thru OBDII? That's what I would try first.
 

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After a few hours of playing and reading, I got most of the Pids to work except my engine oil temp which is still reading Celsius. I went into the manage part of the Pids and changed it to F but it did not change it on my screen. I remember something about, you have to change something but don't remember and can't seem to find the thread where I got the info the first time.
 

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Should be able to switch from C to F in the settings. From the main menu push your options button, a settings icon should come up in the bottom left side. Once you select, you will see a list of options and Units will be where you want to look for. By default the "Use Celsius" box should be checked, you'll want the "Use Fahrenheit" to be checked . Again if you see that this is something you have already done then I'd have to go back to the PID formula to make sure it is correct.

The info for that specific PID is
PID: 221310
Minimum Value: 0
Maximum Value: 300
Scale Factor: x1
Unit:°C
Equation: (((A*256)+B)/100)-40
OBD Header: Auto

Make sure yours matches what this is for the "Engine Oil Temp". I see that you had changed the unit portion from °C to F. This needs to be corrected. Let me know if you still have issues.
 
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