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does anyone have an AutoEnginuity scan tool that is in Groton, ct area? I have a 2002 f350 that I am chasing a problem with a multimeter. new icp, new ipr fresh batts and fuel in the bowl and no start.will start with small amount of starting fluid but will not stay running at low speed/idle. any help would be appreciated.
 

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A diesel shop around you should have the appropriate scanner. My guess would be no oil getting to the injectors, no compression/bad head gasket.

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You are in luck! I live in Ledyard and have the AE scan tool with the Ford enhanced package. I'll be around all day Sunday. PM me or call 860-381-5548.

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I'm betting you'll find low ICP/hIgh IPR duty cycle, indicating bad injector o-rings. Let us know what you find.
 

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We were finally able to get schedules to match and run some tests. Here is what we found:

1. Engine will only start with a little shot of starting fluid. Without it, it only cranks.
2. Engine will not stay running at normal idle RPM, but will stay running over 1000 RPM and the truck can be driven.
3. Injector buzz test passed with no problems.
4. When we tried to run the cylinder contribution test, the engine died as soon as the first injector was dropped out by the test - I don't think it related to that injector. I think it is because the RPM dropped too much. We repeated the test and the same thing happened again.
5. He has a DP tuner, and the engine will only stay running if the tuner is on the high idle program. If you take it back to stock, the engine dies immediately.

The IPR Duty Cycle is at about 14% with the engine off, jumps up to about 65% while cranking, and then comes back down to about 14% once the engine is running. If I remember correctly, ICP was around 650-700 psig. I don't have the list of the codes we pulled, but he wrote them down and should be able to provide them. I remember seeing the code for ICP hi/low - don't know if it's related to the DP tuner or not.

From what he told me, he has replaced the fuel filter, injector cups & o-rings, and the IPR.

It seems like there is not enough oil pressure to fire the injectors while cranking and at normal idle speeds. The starting fluid is giving the engine something to fire on, and then once the engine starts and comes up to higher idle, the oil pressure is high enough to fire the injectors.

Any ideas? Thanks.


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Thanks again Greg for the help! the codes we got were:
P4072/0603/1211 and b1352.
Orings are less that 24 months old(not ruling it out just providing info)
Thanks in advance for the help.
 

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How does it run if you pull the ICP sensor wire?
 
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