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I'm looking for a way to warm up my blocker heater when I go camping in the winter time. I was looking at a battery generator that has 500 watts and 15amps of continuous power would that work or do i need something bigger
 

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Are you talking about using an inverter to power the factory block heater? Our block heaters are (I think) 1000W so that wouldn't work (and would take a lot of power and a good inverter). If your glowplugs, batteries, and starter are in good shape, you shouldn't have any issues starting, even below zero. If you need the truck itself warmed up quickly, start it and then idle it up for a bit. Cheers!
 

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Using a battery to power an inverter for a resistive heater is VERY inefficient - you'd get as much heat from the inverter as you did from the block heater (which means you'd waste half the battery charge).

Keep the truck running well, and just use the battery (batteries) for cranking (including the built-in glow plugs). If you absolutely have to use the block heater, buy a generator rated for more than 1200W @ 110VAC.
 

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I agree with Patrick. Just make sure that your glow plug system is working properly and enjoy your camp out.

I have started my truck at a -40 after a long cold soak and when I have gone ice fishing I have started it at below zero temperatures multiple times.

But if you want to get a generator to power the block heater then go ahead but as was mentioned the heater is a 1000watt draw so your generator is going to have to be a minimum of 1200 watts or so and you will need to run it for a couple of hours to do any good.
 

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Sooooo give us some more info. Where do you plan on camping? What kinds of temps are you talking about? What is the mileage on you engine? I have cold soaked a 99 for over 24 hours at 25 below and it started, was not happy but it started and ran. I never worry even to 10-20 below because I make sure my engine/batteries are up to the task. If you want a backup get a Honda 2000 generator it will run at 30 below and do a fine job.
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My F250 1994.5 has 153000ish and I just bought it a few months ago never owned one but the diesels I've been around that are 80's and early 90's do not like the cold and where I'm planning to camp is North Eastern Washington.
 

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And no it's not a inverter it's a battery generator and thanks I think ill just pick up a gas generator 🙂
 

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And no it's not a inverter it's a battery generator and thanks I think ill just pick up a gas generator 🙂
If I just got finished with a winter camping trip away from civilization, I would sure want to be confident my truck is going to start also.

I think you are on the right track with a small gas generator.
 

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I don't see any actual specifications on what you linked to on Amazon but you need one that is rated at a minimum of 1000 watts that will run for 1.5-3 hours to do any good to be used for the block heater.

Solar doesn't work at night and you will be using it mostly in the early morning if needed after your truck has cold soaked overnight and won't start. You also have to consider the cold effect that is going to affect the battery of the device.

As I mentioned before, just make sure that your glow plug system is in proper working order and then don't worry about it. I live in the mountains of Colorado and my truck will sit for weeks at a time during the winter at temperatures down to a -40 and I have no problems starting it. It argues until it warms up a little bit but it will start without the help of the block heater. It has done this for 23 years now.
 

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So that's a battery/inverter package, that's capable of being recharged with a generator. I see it's rated for 288 WH which means it would last less than 20 minutes if loaded at 1000W. The battery would be drained in short order. Not going to help much

What everyone else said about keeping your glow plug system and starting batteries up to snuff. I once started my cold-soaked truck at minus 6F without a working block heater or a working glow plug system. When it finally fired off, I mosquito fogged the whole neighborhood (if there had been any mosquitoes around at that temp). With a working GP system and good batteries, you should have no problem starting without a block heater plugged in well below zero.
 

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And I don't have to listen to some bloody horrible noise if you know what I mean

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DVSWLSR
Yes, that's an inverter. It's just packaged with a battery & charger inside the case so that, if any ONE of them goes bad, they want you to toss the whole thing & buy a new one. You'd spend less & get better performance buying them separately. But you don't really need to buy batteries (your truck already has 2) or charger (the truck has an alternator). Of course, that just gets you back to my first reply - the inverter will put off about as much heat as the block heater, so you're wasting the batteries. They'd be better-used either powering the glow plugs, or a 12V block heater (no waste, except a little in the wiring & connections).

But modern inverter generators are VERY quiet & compact. Some can be ganged.
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.... They'd be better-used either powering the glow plugs, or a 12V block heater .....
Except a 12V block heater of 1000W capacity would drain the batteries too low to run the starter in short order, or the block heater would be too wimpy to do any real heating.
 

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Yeah it would be better off with a gas one like a Honda and thanks for the info on the block heater wattage I wasn't figuring it would be that much wattage 🙃
 

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...would drain the batteries too low to run the starter in short order, or the block heater would be too wimpy to do any real heating.
Yeah, I wasn't suggesting he do that - only that it would be a better use for the batteries' energy than wasting half of it in an inverter. At least with a 12V block heater, much more of that energy would go where he wants it - into the block.

But the little quiet generator is the most-logical solution, if he can't get the engine to run well enough to start off the stock glow plugs.
...what else is there that I should know about them
That depends on what you already know... :icon_rolleyes:

But generally: the same as any other vehicle. Maintenance is cheaper than repair. Cheap parts are more expensive than quality parts. Ford built it right, so the closer to stock you keep it, the better-off you'll be (with a few very specific exceptions that will be explained as you encounter them). And you should read the owner's manual, the diesel supplement, the Haynes manual, and search the old threads here for anything you're considering doing to the truck.
 

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That is quite a heater unit.

I wonder where a good location would be under the hood?

I would be inclined to purchase the Honda generator since it can be used for multiple tasks and can be resold.

This heater unit won’t add value to your truck in the event of resale.
 

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It could be mounted down on a frame rail, or behind the bumper. As far as I know, once it's installed you do not need regular/easy access to it. It plumbs into the trucks fuel and electrical systems.

Yes, a gas generator would be more useful overall, but the Espar would be more convenient since it is always installed and ready to go and uses the same fuel as the truck and should be significantly faster, since it makes 5000 watts worth of heat, verses the 1000 from the electric block heater.

I agree the Espar option would be more cost effective if the truck were used exclusively or at least extensively in sub freezing temps.

A 1000 watt Honda generator is around $950, and the 2200 watt Honda is around $1200, I see Webasto brand diesel fired coolant heaters on Ebay now for $900 or $920, so again the generator is looking like a better value as far as overall usefulness.
 
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