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Nice pic of the lie-o-meter...hand calc is all you should trust.
 

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Not much of a comparison. Hydra is 325 and comes with tunes

DP F5 not email updateable is 520 for 6 tunes and the chip

F6 with 6 tunes is 745$!!!

The hydra and F6 are both email updateable. The hydra is open source.

The F6 says “open source” but in order to load someones tunes on it they have to send unencrypted files to DP. No one is going to send their files to them so Jody can look them over and get ideas.

You want different tunes for a hydra...the company’s emails them to you and you load them yourself.

You literally pay double for the same product from DP.
 

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I've had tuners that really mess with onboard fuel economy gages and give false high readings...
 

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I know my 97 7.3 is the generation before yours, but I used an Edge programmer in the "Safe Tow" tune (because that's what I used the truck for) and it turned it into a towing animal. That, and the installation of a Banks intercooler, Banks billeted torque converter and a whole bunch of stuff. Then I "gauged up" with an EGT gauge, tranny temp gauge, and the mostly useless boost gauge.

I just recently decided to sell it, and it breaks my heart . . .
 

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Sorry to bring this thread back around...just my two cents...

First you will want to get some gauges so that you can make sure you are not going to do any damage and you can see how your rig reacts/runs on different tunes etc. I have the old school gauges but there are units now that are basically a screen that you can hook to display what ever gauges you want and even pull trouble codes. Then I would get your air intake and exhaust set up so it can breathe. I went with the Ford AIS unit and a 4" exhaust. Once that is done you can get tunes. I run DP tuner in my truck. I called them told them what mods I had on my truck and they made custom tunes for towing, HP, fuel economy, etc. I have it set up so I can change tunes on the fly. Here is a run down on my rig

Black 2002 F350 XLT 4x4 Crew Cab 7.3L (build date 11-01) - Nito Trail Grappler MT 35 12.5 R18 mounted on KMC XD Monster 18x9 Wheels, 4 inch ProComp Lift w/ dual front shocks, Bilstein steering stabilizer,Red-Head Steering gear, Ranch Hand-Full replacement front/rear bumpers, Leer Camper Shell, Autometer Triple guage pillar pod with Autometer Sport Comp Pyro and boost gages, Autometer Ultra lite digital Trans temp gage, DP Tuner (60hp econo, 60hp tow, 100 hp performance) w/ in dash mounted ex switcher,Ford AIS, International bellowed up pipes, FrX, HD4r100, 6.0 tranny cooler, Stancor glow plug relay, Dieselsite Max cold, Viper 3000 alarm, RBP RX-3 Nerf bars

I would join the dieselstop.com its a free online forum with tons of info and some great people. Any time I have had an issue or question about my Truck they have been there with the answer. Many times with detailed step by step info. I joined in 2004 when I bought my truck and since that time I have gotten info on everything you could ever want to know about the 7.3 Heck in 2013 they walked me through replacing my tranny (which I did in my driveway).
 

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DP. The best way to go for me as well! It's how the truck should have been from the start.... There is a whole other truck inside the one you have now...
 

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I tried DP tunes and hated the way they performed, and wasn't happy the with service, or lack thereof, after the sale.
 

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Sorry to hear that, did you give them a chance to remedy?

I tried DP tunes and hated the way they performed, and wasn't happy the with service, or lack thereof, after the sale.
I've had nothing but positive interactions with them.
 

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I've had nothing but positive interactions with them.
My experience as well. In fact, of all the businesses I deal with - I'd put them at the top in terms of customer service (as well as product quality)! I have called the office several times with a technical question and been transferred directly to Jody who walked me through whatever the issue was with skill and patience. They maintain a presence on this and other forums and respond promptly to any and all questions. I've sent multiple e-mails when getting equipment for friends and neighbors. They always respond promptly. They are one of our site sponsors as a matter of fact. I wouldn't trust my truck to anyone else.
 

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My experience as well. In fact, of all the businesses I deal with - I'd put them at the top in terms of customer service (as well as product quality)! I have called the office several times with a technical question and been transferred directly to Jody who walked me through whatever the issue was with skill and patience. They maintain a presence on this and other forums and respond promptly to any and all questions. I've sent multiple e-mails when getting equipment for friends and neighbors. They always respond promptly. They are one of our site sponsors as a matter of fact. I wouldn't trust my truck to anyone else.
My experience was the opposite. I received no guidance via email. When I'd later sought help in these forums about my truck bucking wildly under light throttle in gears 1 through 3 with DP's economy tuning, a company rep created a straw-man fallacy by posting that I lacked the necessary high-performance mods.
 

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I’ve heard that story quite a few times. It’s always the trucks fault.

In some cases the truck does have issues. Especially low icp or trans issues

But if one particular person at DP handles the email good luck.
Jody or Justin offer great service. It’s the extra member of the team who doesn’t know how to tune or know these trucks that muddies the water.

I think that particular person has been told to stay out of things now....Because customer service has improved.
 

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2000 7.3 Excursion 153,000 original miles stock tires turbo ect. I’ve had a Superchips program in tow haul for 12 yrs never towed anything over 3,000. Until this last weekend experienced turbo surge. Hauling a newer 8,400lb travel trailer from Montana to NW Washington. On arrival home in my drive way Trans fluid ran from my bell housing as I was backing it in to place. Now I’m looking to build this truck to make cross country trips once or twice a year with this travel trailer with decent fuel economy and good towing capability. Any good ideas. Hydra? Turbo? Trans?
 

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^ Hydra, wicked wheel and switch to 4L when backing up...
 

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Agree with above post!! Backing is hard on the auto tranny (heat). 4x4 low when backing. I would also add the 6.0 trans cooler and trans temp gauge, simple bolt in project.
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Speaking of gages...EGT and maybe boost while you are at it Ghong97.
 

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I like my Hydra and I like the price too. Call any one of many tuners for it and if they arent willing to have a conversation with you about your needs then just call another. You are never stuck with one.
 

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Yes, and in the truck if you get the adapter.
 
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