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I am looking into making some traction bars for my truck and am looking for any ideas of setups that work great thanks
best set up for traction bars.
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I had some custom ones made for my truck. Really made a difference. The truck really hooks up nice. Did not seem to hurt suspension travel at all. Could be cause they are 6' long.
Pics of the brackets bottom of the page
Traction bar pic
Let me know if you have any ??s
Dave
Pics of the brackets bottom of the page
Traction bar pic
Let me know if you have any ??s
Dave
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Was the length of these bars just a wild guess? I couldn't tell, but are they adjustable length for suspension pre-load? Looks like 1.5" tubing. I am glad they work well, and I think the extra-long length is needed on our trucks. What made you not try ladder bars?
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I had a user of this site fab them up, He also did the light bar on the front and the RSK. Not sure if the length was a guess or if he matched the arc of the suspension travel on purpose. There is a Heim joint on the axle end to adjust preload. I am not sure what ladder bars would do different than what I have. I just needed somthing to help control axle wrap.
Dave
I had a user of this site fab them up, He also did the light bar on the front and the RSK. Not sure if the length was a guess or if he matched the arc of the suspension travel on purpose. There is a Heim joint on the axle end to adjust preload. I am not sure what ladder bars would do different than what I have. I just needed somthing to help control axle wrap.
Dave
I have not settled on a set of ladder bar plans yet, but I will be making a set in the next 2 months or so..
If you are interested in colaberating and we can make two at once..
I was planning on making a set based on THESE
I just need help working out the bushing part numbers and hiem joint supplier.
If you are interested in colaberating and we can make two at once..
I was planning on making a set based on THESE
I just need help working out the bushing part numbers and hiem joint supplier.
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I just need help working out the bushing part numbers and hiem joint supplier.
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I've already bought everything to make a set but haven't had the time, I was able to help Jesse make his set it seems to have made a difference. If you want I can try and scrounge up the part numbers and places we ordered ours from?
JIM
I just need help working out the bushing part numbers and hiem joint supplier.
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I've already bought everything to make a set but haven't had the time, I was able to help Jesse make his set it seems to have made a difference. If you want I can try and scrounge up the part numbers and places we ordered ours from?
JIM
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i came across another style of traction bars what do you guy's think of <font color="red">THESE</font>. they would defianatly need to be built with stronger material but using the same design, i kinda like it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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That is a copy of John Calvert's design. I have seen it used and it worked on that specific truck. Bought a set and tried these on my CC and I get undesirable results. It seems to start to wrap the rear axel and the strength of my springs over powers the wrapping force and it cycles through this which equates bucking in the rear (hop). The bite is great but like I said the springs are too much. I think if I replaced the rear springs with soft custom springs and added air bags for towing then it should work like it was intended to. The torque from our trucks and the leaf spring rigidity is much more than the cars it was designed for. I called John Calvert and he was very helpful and sent me additional bars to try and also offered to buy them back if they don't work but I just might try the soft spring option because when they bite hold on.
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Wacker,
Just called 4 Wheel Parts to check on the ProComp's and the pricing I was told is:
Bars - $247.00
Mounting kit - $149.00
Installation - $200.00
I know you do the install yourself Jeremy but did you make your own mounting kit?
BTW - I bet the mounting brackets are color matched and flamed, Right? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Just called 4 Wheel Parts to check on the ProComp's and the pricing I was told is:
Bars - $247.00
Mounting kit - $149.00
Installation - $200.00
I know you do the install yourself Jeremy but did you make your own mounting kit?
BTW - I bet the mounting brackets are color matched and flamed, Right? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Why match the driveshaft angle? It has nothing to do with the suspension geometry.
As far as chassis setup and suspension geometry goes, and considering the type of bars most people use (straight bar with a single solid mounting point at each end) they should be the same length as the distance from the forward spring eye to the spring center bolt. This dimension will match the arc the rear suspension travels in and not cause any binding due to the axle trying to move in two different arcs. Unless of course some method of allowing the traction bar to move forward and back is used so the spring dimension still dictates the suspension arc. For the axle housing mount, the farther away from the axle shaft center line moving in a vertical plane, (not horizontal) the more leverage the traction bar has to control axle wrap. The "Cal-Trac" bars or "Calvert" bars are a very good design I have made and used them on quite a few cars and trucks but not any diesels yet.
As far as chassis setup and suspension geometry goes, and considering the type of bars most people use (straight bar with a single solid mounting point at each end) they should be the same length as the distance from the forward spring eye to the spring center bolt. This dimension will match the arc the rear suspension travels in and not cause any binding due to the axle trying to move in two different arcs. Unless of course some method of allowing the traction bar to move forward and back is used so the spring dimension still dictates the suspension arc. For the axle housing mount, the farther away from the axle shaft center line moving in a vertical plane, (not horizontal) the more leverage the traction bar has to control axle wrap. The "Cal-Trac" bars or "Calvert" bars are a very good design I have made and used them on quite a few cars and trucks but not any diesels yet.
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I just bought some procomp bars . Very cheap for 220 bucks Ifigured it was not worth the time to build my own. I have had them on for 2 weeks now and they work great. I would suggest them to any body.
Wacker
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anyone local to me want to make some? cause the crap i have now sucks
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1996 F-250 Ext Cab Short Box
5 SPD LuK Cerametallic/SMFW 3.55/LS/Dana 60 Swap
Tymar Intake, 4" Exhaust, no cat, 3.5" Hypermax DP, DieselSite BRV
Northern Diesel Performance 4 Position Chip
Swamps 150/146's
Autometer "Ultra lite" Boost/pyro on the A-pillar
6" Skyjacker Lift(all spring) riding on 37x12.5x16 Superswamper SSR's with 16x10 Ultra stargazers
Pro Comp Lateral Trac Bars
118,000 miles 279HP/533 FT/LBS
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What gives????
I just bought some procomp bars . Very cheap for 220 bucks Ifigured it was not worth the time to build my own. I have had them on for 2 weeks now and they work great. I would suggest them to any body.
Wacker
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anyone local to me want to make some? cause the crap i have now sucks
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1996 F-250 Ext Cab Short Box
5 SPD LuK Cerametallic/SMFW 3.55/LS/Dana 60 Swap
Tymar Intake, 4" Exhaust, no cat, 3.5" Hypermax DP, DieselSite BRV
Northern Diesel Performance 4 Position Chip
Swamps 150/146's
Autometer "Ultra lite" Boost/pyro on the A-pillar
6" Skyjacker Lift(all spring) riding on 37x12.5x16 Superswamper SSR's with 16x10 Ultra stargazers
Pro Comp Lateral Trac Bars
118,000 miles 279HP/533 FT/LBS
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What gives????
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