[EXECUTIVETOWING]

Here i am again 2005 Ford F 450 6.0 i have paid Ford for the following
High pressure pump
Low pressure pump
injectors
front cover with gears
The symptoms are the truck starts right up and drives perfect until you turn it off. A diesel tech said the Tubes he checked them and said no tubes are all fine must be HPOP i told him Ford replaced it he said take it back!!! Took it to Ford again and now they say well we didn't dig all the way in but the tech says Branch tube!!! I said so how do i know this wasn't the problem the whole time? They said well we can't say because a different tech worked on it and is no longer with us. The branch tube is 40 hours labor so around 4000$ Owning a tow truck company truck down means loss of money but my question is how do i know it is for sure the branch tube and these guys are not just ass raping me!!!!! Thank you all in advance!!!!!

 

[teamroper60]

Sounds to me like they are jerking your chain. 40 hours to change a branch tube is ridiculous. It doesn't take that long to do a headgasket job. I think I would find a different place to take it.

 

[IndependentShopOwner]

Yes it can be involved -- rear cover, trans, etc and it's easily a 20-hr job, but before all that I'd get a DETAILED analysis if it is indeed the branch tube ---- there are plenty of other possibilities (e.g STC Fitting)............the later model HPOPs (like yours) don't fail that much (unlike the early 2003/4s)

 

[jimmy]

Agreed. I do not know of one of those pumps fixing a problem on later 6.0. I know of several being replaced but it did not fix the problem (I'm sure some have failed somewhere and from various causes) 03-04 Hell yes, they die routinely at 125K or thereabouts.

Someone needs to air test it with an IPR adapter air test rig and find the leak. The air needs to be applied for 20 minutes at shop air pressure to push oil out through the leak in order for the test to be effective. If you don't air it long enough you can think you have no leak. If you have the air test rig with a gauge and a shutoff valve you air it up and then close valve and check for loss/leakage that way.

 

[TKOPerformance]

I would tell the Ford dealer they need to refund the cost of the previous "repairs". They are supposed to be able to diagnose a problem and fix it properly the first time. Instead they are throwing darts at a board taking WAGs with your money. 40 hours to replace a branch tube is also absurd. Pull the cab off the chassis, pull the trans, some disassembly and you're there. A good shop can pull a cab in an hour. installation maybe two hours. Two hours to R&R the trans. Being kind and assuming a leisurely pace its maybe a 10 hour job for an experienced tech. I would ask if they are charging book time or actual time. The Ford manual has guys doing everything with the cab on the chassis, which is not the fastest way to do any major repair on one of these trucks, and good shops know that.

Also, I agree with jimmy on the HPOP. I've also never heard of a branch tube failure. Not that it hasn't ever happened, there's enough of these trucks for literally anything to have happened, but I've never heard of it.