[DieselMank]

Have a 5 quart over stock Hughes Performance pan on my 4L80E box in my 93 Burb. Paid $200 for it at Oregon Performance thru eBay. WHo maks the absolutely biggest capacity pan for the 5R? Doing a fluid swap and filter change (got my Motorcraft filters, both of them, for $25 shipped from eBay also).
Any tricks to changing the toilet paper secondary? How much fluid comes out. I got two quarts of SP JIC for the Extrnal TP swap... is that enough? WIll do a drain and fill soon if I can't find a truly HUGE pan...
Thanks again for your time in replying. I appreciate your help!

 

[NCfarmboy]

Not much fluid comes out at all when you change the external filter. Maybe a few ounces when I did mine. It's incredibly easy. I didn't even need to add any fluid at all, so 2 quarts is more than enough. As far as a deeper pan goes, I can't help there, but I know several make them.

 

[OMCUSNR]

Dutch,

From what I've read here, you're not going to gain much by putting a larger pan on the torqueshift. The stock cooling system they put on the 6.0/torqueshift was one of the things they got right. I think you'd be hard pressed to pay off a larger pan, especially as the TS requires Mercon SP and there is no aftermarket / autoparts brand available.

Do you have an aftermarket trans temp gauge? The stock gauge is a 3 position idot light: off, good, OH [censored]. Before spending the money on a bigger pan, get the gauges to see if you really need it.

 

[DieselMank]

BIGGEr is always better. From my C6 460 1 ton of MANY years ago to now, more fluid means the fluids lasts longer. So many folks will come on and say "I want to add durability/mileage/performance and in response a lot of good-hearted folks will talk about how long it will take to repay the parts in cost savings, especially with exhaust and intakes, IF they ever do repay for themselves. I am not looking at a$3-400 pan as an investment in kind, but rather $3-400 spend now to save $4-5K in trans repairs/replacement later. I have beaten up many a trans in my 40+ years, but never broken a trans with a bigger pan and a decent fluid cooler.
As for a gauge...yes I want on, no I don't plan on getting a analog setup, but a digital display reader for multiple sensor points. EGT, Trans, oil temp, fuel pressure, intake temp... I LOVE information and 10 gauges would take up a LOT of room... I hear you on the trans temp gauge on the dash, POS to say it nicely.
Thanks for responses...keep 'em comin'!

 

[1SickHarley]

I have a 7 quart over stock Mag-Hytec pan from SunCoast on my SunCoast tranny. I do run Dextron/Mercron III in my tranny. Works like a champ. Don't know if I'd try that with a stock tranny though. That is what SunCoast told me to out in my tranny so I did. And that was coming from Joe Webb himself.

 

[DieselMank]

Let's make a list then..... and make it useful from a cost comparison point as well....

MAG-HYTEC: 7qts. $308.75 at coersdiesel.com
TCI: 508010 7.5 quarts BEST PRICE SO FAR...Jegs:$377.99
I'll edit this post as we go...

 

[HideOut]

http://www.puredieselpower.com/catalog/p...5b1lrboa3gdrib6

only 5 or so Q larger but alot cheaper...

 

[DieselMank]

Settled on the Mag Hytec, got it for #308 out the ddor, free shipping from www.truckcustomizers.com
Something I noticed as well.... it used to be advertised as 7 qts over stock but have seen recently it now says 8 1/3" qts over stock. Was there a redesign of the 5R110 pan at MH?
Next question, cheapest place online for SP fluid.....30 or so qts of it.....

 

[dc3655]

The Cheapest places I've seen for Mercon SP are K-mansparts.com and dieselfiltersonline.com If you're going to buy 30 quarts, you can get free shipping from the second place, otherwise, the first one listed is the cheapest I've seen.

 

[DieselMank]

Free shipping, sounds good to me, especially since Kman can only ship 20 qts at a time....what is the stock amount for a drain and drop again? 22 qts?

 

[4x4Mark]

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Do keep in mind that the tranny needs to get to a certain temp in order for the fluid to start flowing to the cooler and filter - I think I read 165-170 degrees. Below that, you're not taking advantage of the external filter. I had a PML pan on mine, but in the winter I could never get it hot enough to open up - it averaged around 140. I've reverted back to the stock pan to ensure complete flow. Even in the summer, it runs around 180 fully warmed up on a hot day. I'd suggest getting a larger pan if you need to bring the temps down, but make sure you need it first - you could be degrading the existing system if done blindly.

Mark