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I've been getting quite a few requests for info on what the door seal mod is and how to do it. Basically, it is a way to improve the factory door seals against wind noise and rattling. There is a write-up in the tech folder but I'm also adding this video to hopefully provide more information.

 

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That was great!

Thank you for the video, makes it so much easier once I have a visual. I'm on it tomorrow!:thumbsup:
 

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Sorry guys for the slow response. The tubing is 3/8 inch outer diameter. I don't know for sure on the wall thickness, I never specified it. If you go to Lowes or Home Depot, you can find plenty of the right stuff. They however are about twice the price of online resellers. Just Google surgical tubing and you'll find plenty of options.
 

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I did this on my '01 and it works great!! Very easy mod, too.

I never got around to doing it on the '08, but definitely plan to do the '11.

You want 1/4" ID with 1/16" wall thickness, which is 3/8" OD.

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How well does it seal out road noise? My truck seems a lot noisier on the roads than it was when I first test drove it.
 

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I did mine. Didnt notice any road noise difference. It did stop the lovely air noise by my head on the driver door. BUT... The rear doors wouldnt even shut with this mod. Mine are very tight to begin with so I had to take it out. My passenger side door doesnt shut well now. I will be removing all but the a pilar section and about 12 inches afterwards so that I will only have a section of tubing in that door.
 

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I did mine. Didnt notice any road noise difference. It did stop the lovely air noise by my head on the driver door. BUT... The rear doors wouldnt even shut with this mod. Mine are very tight to begin with so I had to take it out. My passenger side door doesnt shut well now. I will be removing all but the a pilar section and about 12 inches afterwards so that I will only have a section of tubing in that door.
There was someone else who complained that the doors were too tight recently. I'm pretty sure that was on a 2011 though which makes sense. This is the first time I've heard of a door not being able to close. That's pretty severe.

My own experience is different and I've been very happy with the mod on all my trucks. It made very noticeable improvements in door rattling, wind and road noise abatement, and lessening the acoustic impact from a slammed door. Clearly it's a function of how bad your door seals are to begin with so if you're doing this on a newer vehicle, you will notice less of an improvement. Having said that, if you do the newer truck, the seals will never fail with the mod. You can enjoy solid and quiet doors for the life of the truck.
 

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my door seals are weak. I hope this helps as i notice dirt up past the door seal the way it is.
 

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Dang my boys are always slamming the doors shut wow I'm so doing this!
 

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Just did this on my '00, doors seal very nice now. Also, I used 3/8" foam backer rod from Lowes; total for ext cab...$8.

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Okay, I tried doing this mod today, and I end up pretty much destroying my drivers door seal. When I tried doing it, I used a bunch of WD-40 as the lube and the latex tubing kept getting hung up. It went nothing like how easy it went in the how to video. I ended up tearing a hole in one of the drain holes from when I kept having to reinsert the fish tape and also both ends of the door seal tore because of my repeated attempts to get the latex tubing through.

I finally got the tubing through, but not without it being streched out inside because it is hung up somewhere. I stopped with the drivers seal and left well enough alone.

My questions are, what is the best lube for the running through the tubing? I noticed silicon was used in the video, is it really the best? Also does anyone know of a vendor besides the dealership who seals new door seals? I could not find any with internet searching and the Ford parts site says the one seal is $78. tia
 

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The problem with WD40 is it evaporates too quickly. The gigaloo is silicone based. When I removed it from my rear door, the gigaloo was still there days later. 3 weeks later when I took 50% of it out of my passenger door...it was still there.
 

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Reply to fireguywtc...

Try checking out this site... I hope that the link works for ya!

Big Ford Parts Store

Their catalog says $54 from FORD without a markup...
 

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...It went nothing like how easy it went in the how to video. I ended up tearing a hole in one of the drain holes from when I kept having to reinsert the fish tape and also both ends of the door seal tore because of my repeated attempts to get the latex tubing through.

I finally got the tubing through, but not without it being streched out inside because it is hung up somewhere. I stopped with the drivers seal and left well enough alone.

My questions are, what is the best lube for the running through the tubing? I noticed silicon was used in the video, is it really the best? Also does anyone know of a vendor besides the dealership who seals new door seals? I could not find any with internet searching and the Ford parts site says the one seal is $78. tia
Oh man, sorry it was such a pain. Like others have said, WD40 is more of a cleaner and it evaporates quickly. I wonder if it is also absorbed into the rubber itself? I like the silicone but I've heard of others who used lots of dish soap to accomplish the same thing. Regardless, sounds like you have something blocking the channel. Maybe a staple or pin or something. It should be as easy as the video. Like my dad always used to say, "If you have to force it, you're doing something wrong."
 

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Reply to fireguywtc...

Try checking out this site... I hope that the link works for ya!

Big Ford Parts Store

Their catalog says $54 from FORD without a markup...
Thanks for the reply, that is a lot better. I am trying a couple of local salvage yards first to see if I can get one cheaper, but that is a good deal.

fordmudder and Epiccowlick, thanks for the replies. It sounds like WD40 was a bad idea. I hope others will learn from my mistake. I knew I was doing something wrong, but persisted. The tape kept giving up about halfway through and I would poor in more WD40 and hope for the best. I bet I used almost half a can. Thats what I get for trying it on a Sunday, I couldn't go into town and get a can of the right lube on a Sunday. I will try again soon with the right stuff and let everyone know how it goes.
 

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I found this deal after getting the part number from the link above. I am going to go out on a limb and try it. Thanks again for all the help. Btw, I did have the seal back in the truck and functional, it just bothers me that it is messed up.

More Information for FAIRCHILD F3043

can't get the rock auto link to work, but enter the part number in the catalog and it is $29.79

part# 3C3Z2520708AA
 

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I will be doing this mod. I live on gravel and I am hoping that this will help with dust.
 
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