[lowblues]

Ok, I'm here at the request of my good buddy. I'm a 6.9 guy. But he has a 01 F350 SRW with 7.3, Banks stinger, and a bunch more trimmings. What he want's to know is this.

It is a Ford Power stroke diesel, but who really made the motor? He found some International things on it and is now mighty confused. I told him to log on here and ask you guys. He said, "You already spend so much time there, you ask them."

So, if you don't mind my intrusion, I'm askin'. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

Andy

 

[SteveIn29]

Same company made it that makes all the Ford diesels, International Harvester.

 

[SmokeyWren]

The '01 Power Stroke Diesel (PSD) was assembled in the Indianapolis engine plant run by International Truck and Engine Corporation. The 444 cubic inch (7.3L) PSD is very similar to the International T444E engine used in medium-duty International trucks and school buses. www.internationaldelivers.com

Ford engineers and International engineers worked together to design the 7.3L PSD engines. They started with the International engine, but then tweaked it to make it perform better for pickups instead of the bigger trucks International uses their version in.

Ford engineers were in charge of the software that goes in the computer of the PSD, so the "calibration" of the Ford version of the 7.3L engine is quite different than the calibration of the same basic engine used in International trucks. (The "computer" in a PSD is called the program control module, or PCM.)

International Harvester as the company name went away about 30 years ago. They were replaced by Navistar for trucks and Case International for Farmall tractors and International construction and "harvester" equipment. Then a few years ago Navistar changed the name of their truck and engine manufacturing and sales divisions from Navistar to International Truck and Engine.

So your 6.9L was made by Navistar. My '99.5 7.3L was made by Navistar. The 2001 was around the time of the name change, so it might be either a Navistar or International engine. Doesn't matter - all that changed was the name on the door of the plant. All the current 6.0L PSDs are International engines, and they might be assembled at a new International engine plant in Huntsville, AL or maybe in the old foundry/engine plant in Indianapolis.

http://www.powerstrokedieselstuff.com/product.asp

 

[lowblues]

Thanks for the info and the web link. Lots of good info. Both my truck (84 F250 W/ 6.9) and his truck (01 F350 w/7.3) were made in Canada. Did Ford have the motors shipped to Canada for assembly? How much assembly is Ford still doing in Canada? (Not that I'm complaining.)

AW

 

[SmokeyWren]

No, those trucks were not made in Canada. They were probably assembled at the Kentucky Truck Plant (KTP) near Louisville KY.

Ford has only two plants that produce SuperDuty pickups sold in North America. One is KTP. The other is Cuautitlan, near Mexico City.

6.9L and 7.3L diesel engines were made in Indianapolis. 4R100 automatic trannies were made in a Ford tranny plant in - I think - Ohio. The engines and trannies were then shipped to KTP for assembly into a SuperDuty truck.

Almost all the SuperDuties sold in Canada are assembled at KTP. The trucks for sale in Canada are slightly different - metric instruments, etc. And because of Canadian pricing of new trucks, a lot of them are shipped barely "used" right back to the USA, converted to USA specs, and sold to Yanks.

But if you look at the VIN of your truck, you'll see the first character is a "1", when means "made in the USA". 3 means made in Mexico. 2 means made in Canada. But I'll bet you won't find a SuperDuty with a VIN beginning with a 2.

Further over in the VIN is the plant code - that shows the final assemble plant where that truck was "made".

Assembly Plant Code

The eleventh VIN position is the assembly plant code.

E — Kentucky Truck (Jefferson County, Kentucky)
J — IMMSA (Monterrey, Mexico)
M — Cuautitlan (Cuautitlan, Mexico)

The IMMSA plant is an International/Ford joint venture that does not produce pickups. So all pickups were produced at either KTP or Cuautitlan. Some of the trucks assembled at Cuautitlan beginning about 2000 were sold in the USA, but very few of them were sold in Canada.

 

[lowblues]

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if you look at the VIN of your truck, you'll see the first character is a "1", when means "made in the USA". 3 means made in Mexico. 2 means made in Canada. But I'll bet you won't find a SuperDuty with a VIN beginning with a 2.

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You wont believe this, well maybe you will, my 84 is 2FTHF26.....

The 11th vin number is a "C".

My buddy is going to get me his vin # to is 2001 Superduty as soon as he gets home.

So what does all this mean?

AW

 

[SmokeyWren]

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The 11th vin number is a "C".
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So what does all this mean?


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It means that 21 years ago Ford was building heavy-duty diesel pickups in the Ontario Truck Plant (OTP) in Oakville, Ontario. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/warmsmile.gif

But that was long before the SuperDuty pickups came out. By '99 model year, the only plant building SuperDuty PSDs was KTP, and later the plant near Mexico City began helping out to meet demand. But none from OTP.

 

[kwazyca]

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The '01 Power Stroke Diesel (PSD) was assembled in the Indianapolis engine plant run by International Truck and Engine Corporation. The 444 cubic inch (7.3L) PSD is very similar to the International T444E engine used in medium-duty International trucks and school buses. www.internationaldelivers.com

Ford engineers and International engineers worked together to design the 7.3L PSD engines. They started with the International engine, but then tweaked it to make it perform better for pickups instead of the bigger trucks International uses their version in.

Ford engineers were in charge of the software that goes in the computer of the PSD, so the "calibration" of the Ford version of the 7.3L engine is quite different than the calibration of the same basic engine used in International trucks. (The "computer" in a PSD is called the program control module, or PCM.)

International Harvester as the company name went away about 30 years ago. They were replaced by Navistar for trucks and Case International for Farmall tractors and International construction and "harvester" equipment. Then a few years ago Navistar changed the name of their truck and engine manufacturing and sales divisions from Navistar to International Truck and Engine.

So your 6.9L was made by Navistar. My '99.5 7.3L was made by Navistar. The 2001 was around the time of the name change, so it might be either a Navistar or International engine. Doesn't matter - all that changed was the name on the door of the plant. All the current 6.0L PSDs are International engines, and they might be assembled at a new International engine plant in Huntsville, AL or maybe in the old foundry/engine plant in Indianapolis.

http://www.powerstrokedieselstuff.com/product.asp

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And they all lived happily ever after. Smokey, I need you to read me this as a bedtime story. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif.

That is some great information Smokey /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif,

Thanks,

Tom

 

[Manx]

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6.9L and 7.3L diesel engines were made in Indianapolis. 4R100 automatic trannies were made in a Ford tranny plant in - I think - Ohio.


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The Sharonville plant in Ohio does the 4r100 and Torqueshift (5r110) transmissions.

The rear differential is made in Sterling Heights
which was a Ford plant then it went to Visteon
and now it's back as a Ford plant I think /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

 

[lowblues]

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It means that 21 years ago Ford was building heavy-duty diesel pickups in the Ontario Truck Plant (OTP) in Oakville, Ontario.

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Sure enough. His VIN starts with a 1F. He thinks it went from Kentucky to Canada, then back to Washington where he bought it.

Case closed. Thanks a bunch ya all!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif