[craiggo]

Ford and Navistar have settled a lengthy legal dispute over diesel engines.

The dispute started in January 2007 when Ford filed a lawsuit against Navistar, arguing that Navistar unjustifiably raised engine prices and had not been paying its share of repair costs for Power Stroke diesel warranty claims.

Ford said it had spent $1 billion on repairs and recalls to fix problems with legacy 6.0-liter Power Stroke diesel engines. Ford further contended that its purchase contract with Navistar allowed it to debit Navistar's invoices to recover those costs, which it had done up to $160 million after filing suit. In response, Navistar temporarily stopped shipping Ford its new 6.4-liter Power Stroke diesel engines and filed a countersuit seeking several hundred millions of dollars because Ford intended to introduce a new diesel engine that was designed by International Truck and Engine Corporation before its joint-manufacturing agreement with Navistar expired in 2011.

In a press release issued on Navistar's website, Navistar states the two companies will end their current diesel engine supply agreement effective Dec. 31, 2009. Ford will pay an unspecified amount to Navistar, but both companies will continue to collaborate on a range of other initiatives going forward.

Navistar will increase its equity stake in the truck- and parts-marking company Blue Diamond, which produces Ford-branded F-650 and F-750 medium-duty commercial trucks in Mexico. Navistar will also receive a majority stake in Blue Diamond's replacement-parts business. Both companies will continue their diesel engine supply relationship in South America.

 

[YellowCat]

It means that the 6.7-litre Scorpion will be i full production by this years end as it replaces the current PS at 6.4-liter. The engine has block in CGI and it worth waiting for. The dispute was about the 4.4-litre V8 diesel not about the Scorpion. Both may be around late summer.

 

[JimJoe]

It means that the 6.7-litre Scorpion will be i full production by this years end as it replaces the current PS at 6.4-liter. The engine has block in CGI and it worth waiting for. The dispute was about the 4.4-litre V8 diesel not about the Scorpion. Both may be around late summer.

Hm, who want to guinea pig a new engine after the mess with the 6.0? Same with the V10 if it is coming.

And something comes into my mind when hearing a 3 MPG improvement. Didn't they claim 7 % better on the 6.0 vs the 7.3? :lol:

Jim

 

[macmaniac1]

V-10 diesel?

 

[JimJoe]

V-10 diesel?

No, gas. I meant the Boss when it will be available this year as a V8.

 

[kalalp]

It means that the 6.7-litre Scorpion will be i full production by this years end as it replaces the current PS at 6.4-liter. The engine has block in CGI and it worth waiting for. The dispute was about the 4.4-litre V8 diesel not about the Scorpion. Both may be around late summer.

This will be an interesting introduction. I look forward to it and may be one of the infamous guinea pigs.
Glad to see that CGIRON is still reading the website. He took some flak a while back when cgi started to become a possibility. I believe he will be vindicated and possibly wealthier if I remember correctly.:thumbsup:

 

[dieselmankane]

Cgi???

 

[MT765]

CGI = Compacted Graphite Iron

It's supposed to be lighter and stronger then regular cast iron.

 

[YellowCat]

Cgi???

Compacted Graphite Iron
Compacted Graphite Iron (CGI) provides at least 75% higher tensile, 40% higher stiffness and approximately double the fatigue strength of conventional grey cast iron or aluminium alloys. The fatigue strength of CGI is up to five times higher than that of aluminium at elevated temperatures. In comparison to ductile iron, CGI provides superior castability, thermal conductivity and machinability. These combined properties of CGI offer cost-effective solutions for complex components that are subjected to mechanical and/or thermal loading.

from
Welcome to SinterCast - Supermetal CGI

Used in 21 different vehicles today and many others tomorrow.

among them the MaxForce 11 and 13 litre by Navistar

http://www.sintercast.com/data/content/DOCUMENTS/2008716194120452071408_TranStar MaxxForce.pdf

 

[MT765]

Is the 6.7 for sure going to use CGI? The last I heard it was up in the air if Ford was going to use CGI at all.

I did read the other day that one of the Ohio colleges is doing training for the workers at the new Mexico plant.

 

[Kaliburz]

Weird....

 

[YellowCat]

CGI all over

Automotive World - Navistar?s MaxxForce 7 pre-empts Ford?s Scorpion

Is the 6.7 for sure going to use CGI? The last I heard it was up in the air if Ford was going to use CGI at all.

I did read the other day that one of the Ohio colleges is doing training for the workers at the new Mexico plant.

Ford is coming with the 6.7-litre Scorpion in CGI this fall and Navistar will be changing the blockmaterial in their 6.4-liter V8 to CGI with first delivery in Oct. CGI all over.

MaxxForce® 7 for Class 4–5 Trucks - MaxxForce®

How can MaxxForce deliver outstanding fuel efficiency, emissions control without SCR, quiet operation and maximum durability? The answer is the industry’s only Class 6-7 CG Iron block. This incredibly strong platform handles the highest fuel pressures that deliver the best fuel combustion and damps vibration and noise. It carries the load without weighing you down.

Strong as a rock, light as a feather.
Because CG Iron is so incredibly strong, castings don't have to be as thick and heavy in order to achieve the desired structural integrity and durability. This results in 45-pound crank weight reduction (net 20-pound engine weight reduction) over a comparable V8 engine cast from gray iron - which further improves fuel economy.

 

[lone_star_dsl]

Arent the rods in the later 7.3's made of CGI? If they are, why do they need to be replaced with cast iron rods of you're pushing over 400hp?

Also, what is the cost comparison between CGI and cast iron?

 

[macmaniac1]

I was talking to my ford diesel mechanic and he said that it looks like Volvo will be making the new 6.7 scorpion.

 

[smotrs]

Should be interesting to see how the new engine does a year or two after it's released. Probably won't even have to wait that long to get the jist of the situation.

 

[BeeBop]

If in fact Volvo has its hand in the development in this new diesel that's gist enough for me. :ford:

Should be interesting to see how the new engine does a year or two after it's released. Probably won't even have to wait that long to get the jist of the situation.