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Finally ran the van low enough (LOW FUEL LIGHT IS ON) to do the fuel/water filter. I was "lucky" enough to find little flakes in the filter housing.
My fuel pump has been noisy since I got her van, probably full of pieces
Found the article from Heavyhitter on his solutions and other folks problems with the OEM tanks.
Did anyone check out whether the tank from the 2011 would fit?
If that tank is plastic will it hold up to the diesel fuel?
I looked at the aluminum tank on Ujoint's site $1399 is a lot for a tank, but then it would be a one time fix.
This probably why the motor has gone into the shakes and lost power every once in a while.
So I am looking at options.
 

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There is a TSB or several out there, maybe the Dealer will foot the bill,

Van E350 TBS Fuel Tanks from Ford Info:
2000 FORD E350 Recall ID from NHTSA: 01V114000
Auto Recall Date: 20010405
Vehicle Component: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY
Estimated Vehicles Affected: 151000
2000 FORD E350 Defect Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: ON CERTAIN VANS WITH AMBULANCE PREP PACKAGES OR OTHER SEVERE-DUTY APPLICATIONS INVOLVING OPERATION AT OR NEAR THE GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT WITH FREQUENT TWISTING OF THE VEHICLE BODY, SUCH AS OFF-ROAD, ROUGH ROAD OR SPEED BUMP EVENTS, THE 35 GALLON MID-SHIP FUEL TANK COULD DEVELOP A CRACK WHERE IT CONTACTS THE FRAME CROSS MEMBER. IF THE FUEL TANK CRACKS, FUEL LEAKAGE COULD OCCUR.
Defect Consequence:
FUEL LEAKAGE IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE COULD RESULT IN A FIRE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE FUEL TANK AND, IF CRACKED, WILL REPLACE THE TANK. INSULATOR PADS WILL BE INSTALLED ON ALL VEHICLES TO REDUCE THE STRESS LEVELS IN THE FUEL TANK. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN APRIL 19, 2001. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673.
Notes: FORD MOTOR COMPANY, 01S14

2000 FORD E350 Recall ID from NHTSA: 00V284000
Auto Recall Date: 20000921
Vehicle Component: EQUIPMENT:OTHER:LABELS
Estimated Vehicles Affected: 4500
2000 FORD E350 Defect Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: BI-FUEL CNG PICKUP TRUCKS AND BI-FUEL CNG VANS, MODIFIED BY CFI CONTROL SYSTEMS, INC., FAIL TO CONFORM TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF FMVSS NO. 303, "FUEL SYSTEM INTEGRITY OF COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS VEHICLES." THE LABEL AFFIXED TO THE FUEL FILLER DOOR BY THE VEHICLE MODIFIER CONTAINS THE INSPECTION DATE AND EXPIRATION DATE OF THE CNG TANK. HOWEVER, IT DOES NOT CONTAIN THE STATEMENT "SEE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE FUEL CONTAINER FOR INSPECTION AND SERVICE LIFE."
Defect Consequence:
THESE VEHICLES DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS.
Remedy:
OWNERS WILL BE PROVIDED A LABEL WITH THE REQUIRED STATEMENT, ALONG WITH INSTRUCTIONS FOR AFFIXING THE LABEL AT THE FUEL FILLER DOOR. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN NOVEMBER 2, 2000. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673.
Notes: FORD MOTOR COMPANY, 00L07

2000 FORD E350 Recall ID from NHTSA: 00V115000
Auto Recall Date: 20000419
Vehicle Component: WHEELS:LUGS/NUTS/BOLTS
Estimated Vehicles Affected: 3300
2000 FORD E350 Defect Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: CUTAWAYS AND STRIPPED CHASSIS WITH SINGLE REAR WHEELS. THE LUG NUTS CAN POTENTIALLY BOTTOM OUT ON A SHOULDER ON THE STUDS.
Defect Consequence:
IF THIS OCCURS, THERE CAN BE AN INADEQUATE CLAMP LOAD TO ATTACH THE WHEEL TO THE AXLE, RESULTING IN NOISE, DAMAGE TO THE WHEEL AND HUB, OR IN EXTREME CASES, LOSS OF A REAR WHEEL WHILE THE VEHICLE IS BEING DRIVEN.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE REAR WHEEL ATTACHING STUDS.
Notes: FORD MOTOR COMPANY, 00S08

2000 FORD E SERIES Recall ID from NHTSA: 03V094000
Auto Recall Date: 20030307
Vehicle Component: STRUCTURE
Estimated Vehicles Affected: 3674
2000 FORD E SERIES Defect Summary:
CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCK, VAN, AND MINI VAN CONVERSIONS EQUIPPED WITH SOUTHERN COMFORT BUILT RUNNING BOARDS THAT CONTAIN CERTAIN COURTESY LIGHTS MANUFACTURED BY AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY COMPONENTS, INC. THESE UNITS CONTAIN A COURTESY LIGHT OR LIGHTS THAT MIGHT OVERHEAT WHEN THE WIRE HARNESS IS EXPOSED TO EXCESSIVE MOISTURE AND ROAD SALT.
Defect Consequence:
THIS OVERHEATING CONDITION CAN CAUSE THE RUNNING BOARD TO MELT OR CAUSE A FIRE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE WIRING HARNESS ON THESE RUNNING BOARDS. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN MARCH 7, 2003. OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT SOUTHERN COMFORT AT 1-800-745-6096.
Notes: SOUTHERN COMFORT CONVERSIONS,
 

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Dropped the tank out, bought the tool to unhook the QR fuel line fittings.
Plenty of crap floating around in the tank,
The two fuel vapor valves on top of the tank, how do they come off?
Do they just pull out or is there something to release to get them off?
I could fuscle muck them off, but I have the time to not F them up.
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Turn them1/4 turn counterclockwise and they come out
ate lunch and the brain was engaged again
 

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My 00 e350 suddenly died
Had it towed home since dealer was closed for the weekend
Changed fuel filter and found teeny tiny silver what looked like gold fish flakes in it
Researched it and guess what
Tank goal delam
Dropped it and the inlet screens secondary pickup screens lines to and including the fuel pump all clogged
Dealer says they never heard of this
100 for oem naked Bosch pump
300 aftermarket NiTrene new tank ordered
Cleaned out the two screens and pickup assembly and all lines
Another new fuel filter
Just waiting on the tank
Dealer says it would be 1800-2500 to replace all
Hope this didn't trash an injector(s)
Contacted FoMoCo hoping to get so e relief but they say this was a 03-07 issue only
BS - google it and read 20+ articles
In the end this will cost me 5000+ in lost wages on that van plus parts and my labor
So if you have any fish flakes lol in your filters = not good
 

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Completion of tank repair:
Had the tank cleaned out and recoated.
Reinstalled it, fueled the truck up and it started right up (no leaks).
For me many times I have the "Chuckie" factor F ing something simple up.
Took the truck down, fueled it up, added a dose of fuel additive.
It seems to run really good. the PHP Atlas tune up to the FICM seems to help in throttle response and get up and go.
Changed the oil to the Rotella T6, the NAPA oil filter cartridge drain would not come out, so I had a bit of a mess when I pulled it apart. Had a new OEM cartridge housing to put on.
Next up is the coolant and filter
 

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I've prob said this before here, but when it happened to me, I only had my main tank boiled out for 2-300, not relined, and that's it. The block filter caught all the flakes (that I know of), but never had an issue with the pump or injectors (that I know of). It also had to run under these conditions 2 different times on its way to the shop to get fixed, shuddering, starving for fuel... this was some time ago, and had no need to spend thousands on repairs, as was mentioned above.
 

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We were lucky that the truck ran OK when I bought it , as I had a friend fly back to Arkansas to pick it up and drive it back to California. Once I get caught up with the PM it should be in good shape. I did not get any maintenance records so I am going through it to be sure it is in good shape.
 

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Just a update on my Tank nightmare the new tank is delaminating as well flakes , flakes flakes .....
 

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For those of you who have experienced delamination, were you using fuel additives? I'd heard that "excessive" amounts of fuel additives - whatever that means, can contribute to delamination. I've haven't used them for the past four years in my vehicles with steel fuel tanks as a result of this rumor/speculation.

Here is one article alluding to additives and delamination:
Tank Delamination Solutions - 8-Lug Diesel Truck Magazine All Pages

Biodiesel is also strongly implicated in many of the delamination cases, but that isn't readily available to me anyway.
 

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Is this problem specific to certain years, or all E-series with steel tanks?
 

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All steel tanks from 1997 to 6/2007 f series, e series, cutaways, modified, ambulance with midship tank(s)
Ford only admits to the 03-07 failure too
 

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tank

What tank did you buy so we don't buy that brand

Well My new tank was modded cut off and a piece of steel was welded in and painted by welder Im sure its the paint he put on it and not the protective coating so im just going to keep cleaning pre fuel pump filter and see if it stops , also my neighbor has a 2000 + chevy diesel and he has Heavy flakes in his filter as well so its not just Fords
 

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2005 Fuel Tank Delamination

There seems to be a lack of information on fuel tank delamination I have been reading through the forums with no real cures. I would like to share my experience with this severe problem that Ford is ignoring. I replaced my 2005 6.0 E-350's tank with a 2010 steel tank. There are some minor difference but nothing that prevents it from being bolted in with the existing straps. I can see that the 2010 tank has a different liner looks like it might be some type of galvanized coating verses the painted on looking stuff in the old tank. My hopes are that Ford has done something to address the problem on the newer tanks. Since I have tried every source to find an answer I can only guess that this will work. There is some reason that ford is selling this year of tank for $294.00 and the 2005 tanks are still selling for over $600 I'm sure someone at Ford knows the answer but wouldn't talk to me. One of the problems that I ran into was that the 2010 fuel sender causes the gauge to read backwards why Ford felt the need to change the sender's resistance to be backwards is beyond me. I was able to adapt the old sender's resistor to fit onto the new senders unit plate. I don't want to get into a how to do it description just want to get the word out that a 2010 tank will fit just have to make sure to get the sender unit and twist ring to go with it. I have a plastic gasoline tank out of a 2012 van that looks like it might fit with different straps and filler tube. Something would have to be figured out with the fuel pick up assembly, maybe a modified gas one. The tank doesn't have any type of a sump area. The sender unit from the 2010 sort of fits in but would not work because of the strainer location and lack of sump. Another unknown is weather or not the tank will stand up to diesel it has some sort of a blue coating inside. I can only hope that the 2010 tank will not fail and this has worked out to be a cheaper fix than putting a more expensive 2005 tank in that will fail in a short time.
 

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I don't know with any certainty, but I would be surprised to learn that a tank that was designed to withstand ethanol could possibly have a problem with diesel.
 

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Fuel tank nitemare

I've got some pictures that I'll post later on the effects of fuel on the plastic parts on the fuel sender. If the steel 2010 tank shows signs of failure I will experiment with the 2012 plastic tank I just didn't have time to do it now. The inlet has a slight offset from the steel tank which can be taken care of by using a hose from a 2012 inlet tube.
 

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In some of the posts in this thread I have read something to the effect of
(Ford only recognizes or admits to 2003 through 2007 having the problem).
Does that mean Ford offers some sort of compensation or replaces the (defective) tank for little or no cost?
Is there an (official) recall notice being sent out to owners of 2003 through 2007 Vans, Cut chassis, F-series 250 and 350"s...?
Or is this just an (in house) TSB for the mechanics so they know what to look for when these vehicles come in exhibiting these symptoms?
As a 2003 E-350 7.3 owner I am curious to know if I should be making some noise aboout not having recieved any recall notice on this one.
Aboout......(thought I would through a little Canadian/Minnesotan accent in there just for fun) Ahyy.....
I only add WalMart (Tech) 2 stroke oil as an additive to my fuel just to increase the lubricity as seemed to be good advice from the study done somewhere on this site that showed the results of a BUNCH of different additives. It was interesting to see that a few of the more popular names in the fuel additive game actually did little to nothing to help and if IIRC some actually made things WORSE!
Anyway....Recall or noit? Now my Australian accent is showing up. LOL DDT
 

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FWIW, here is my experience:

Ford Painted the Inside of the Fuel Tank ! ??? - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

Here's what I found for replacement tanks:

Sportsmobileforum.com • View topic - Spectra Premium Fuel Tank / UjointOffRoad Aluminum Fuel Tank

Also, FYI:

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f14/ford-e350-diesel-tank-delamination-pics-289174/

On mine, I tried a home boil out using paint stripper but after reinstall I saw rust flakes in my frame rail filter strainer. So, I am saving funds to have a stainless steel custom fuel tank welded. (Although the Ni Terne looks good, I would have to have it shortened and rewelded anyway to accommodate the 4x4 transfer case.)
 
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