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Smokey, you linked to our trailer, or close to it! Ours has a stainless nose, otherwise, its a match. I forget what GAWR means. That said, my dry, empty trailer weight [4 horse slant load, all aluminum] is real close to 5k. Loaded with luggage, cooler, tools, fuel, tack, two stout 15.1 QH geldings, the lovely, svelte spouse, and Max the wonderpuppy [70 lbs+ of lab/chow mix], with my SRW 2wd 2000 F250, the CAT scale told me:
4000 front [steer] axle
4860 rear [drive] axle - so more than 8800 GVWR, with only two QHs
6200 on the trailer axles
My empty 2wd F250 Supercab weighs less than 7k, so you can see that my pin weight is in the range of 1,500 or higher [remember, full fuel tank, tools, wife, dog, etc. in the cab when on the CAT scale], consistent with Smokey's pin weight estimate.
Total combined: 15,060 lbs. Add two more QHs, plus tack, would put me at close to 17,500 and up that pin weight a few clicks. Note that with just 2 horses, in an all aluminum trailer, I'm over Ford's 8800 gvwr for the F250 [I think I have that right ...], but well under the GCWR? and my trailer's axle ratings, even loaded with 4 QHs. And the SRW truck, chipped, with a good brake controller, handles the weight great! If the younger, spunkier gelding starts dancing around back there, I barely feel it.
My experience and research tells me that a SRW PSD of my era [2000] will pull a basic all aluminum 4 horse, like I own and Smokey links, loaded with modestly sized horses [not those big workhorses or warmbloods]. If you go to a steel 4h goose, add on living quarters, or haul real big horses, you may need a dooley.
LMJD, true westerner that he is, won't coddle the hayburners like us easterners. I like the slant load and dividers; my buddy who used to cowboy out in Wyoming doesn't think twice about squeezing 6-8+ horses into a steel livestock trailer untied and hauling 'em cross country.
4000 front [steer] axle
4860 rear [drive] axle - so more than 8800 GVWR, with only two QHs
6200 on the trailer axles
My empty 2wd F250 Supercab weighs less than 7k, so you can see that my pin weight is in the range of 1,500 or higher [remember, full fuel tank, tools, wife, dog, etc. in the cab when on the CAT scale], consistent with Smokey's pin weight estimate.
Total combined: 15,060 lbs. Add two more QHs, plus tack, would put me at close to 17,500 and up that pin weight a few clicks. Note that with just 2 horses, in an all aluminum trailer, I'm over Ford's 8800 gvwr for the F250 [I think I have that right ...], but well under the GCWR? and my trailer's axle ratings, even loaded with 4 QHs. And the SRW truck, chipped, with a good brake controller, handles the weight great! If the younger, spunkier gelding starts dancing around back there, I barely feel it.
My experience and research tells me that a SRW PSD of my era [2000] will pull a basic all aluminum 4 horse, like I own and Smokey links, loaded with modestly sized horses [not those big workhorses or warmbloods]. If you go to a steel 4h goose, add on living quarters, or haul real big horses, you may need a dooley.
LMJD, true westerner that he is, won't coddle the hayburners like us easterners. I like the slant load and dividers; my buddy who used to cowboy out in Wyoming doesn't think twice about squeezing 6-8+ horses into a steel livestock trailer untied and hauling 'em cross country.