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I'm looking at this lariat, the dealer says its a regency package? Any idea what that is?
115k miles deleted. Asking 30k(?) overpriced a bit.
The trucks deleted, they have the tuner but not the dpf.
I'm from mass, buying this truck from another state(Florida) Since it won't pass inspection would they be responsible for it or will I be on my own? Thanks


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Used to be a upfitter around named Regency--fancy stuff for ext and int. Only thing I know of. Thats way too high, especially with the delete.
Yep, you are responsible for the inspection pass--unless you can get them to return it to stock with a new DPF.
 

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Used to be a upfitter around named Regency--fancy stuff for ext and int. Only thing I know of. Thats way too high, especially with the delete.

Yep, you are responsible for the inspection pass--unless you can get them to return it to stock with a new DPF.

I thought of it didn't pass inspection the dealer would have to make it pass?
They said they can get a dpf for it
Anyway I'm intreated in it but I think the price is a little high, but doubt they will nudge, what's the price range it should be in? Just curious
I thknk it would have to be 27,000 range to be worth it.

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Any suggestion on the price would be just that--a guess. Go to autotrader.com or cars.com and look at other 2008 trucks to get a feel for prices. No warranty, deleted indicates poss hard past life, 6.4s are expensive to fix. Working that far away on used truck is hard--could cost money just to find out it isn't what is seems.
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Any suggestion on the price would be just that--a guess. Go to autotrader.com or cars.com and look at other 2008 trucks to get a feel for prices. No warranty, deleted indicates poss hard past life, 6.4s are expensive to fix. Working that far away on used truck is hard--could cost money just to find out it isn't what is seems.

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Has a 5th wheel in it, so for deleted I see why it's deleted. There are tons of lariats for 25ish. But this is also the regency so it's got all the add ons...


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IF- If they sell you the truck AND register it for you, for road use- they are required by FEDERAL Law to have all emissions the truck was built with intact and functional... you could be a real jerk and go through all the motions- purchase, take possession, ect- and then when the truck doesn't pass inspection have the dealer put in front of the State and notice to the EPA to answer 'why not?'.... the dealer, presumably a licensed dealer, will be inclined to bring it to snuff, or lose the license... any correspondence with them mentioning the delete can now be used against them.

that would be a jerk arse move, though, and it wouldn't make you anyone's favorite person. The dealer is stupid for advertising this in the first place, and they are equally stupid for purchasing (likely an auction where they couldn't spend much if any time with the truck before bidding) the rig for resale... If they had ANY sense, they would have transferred the title to a person on their staff and advertised a private sale instead of a dealer sell... they could even likely get by with 'consignment' sale from their lot... but to put themselves in that kind of predicament? ..... Just not too smart.
 

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IF- If they sell you the truck AND register it for you, for road use- they are required by FEDERAL Law to have all emissions the truck was built with intact and functional... you could be a real jerk and go through all the motions- purchase, take possession, ect- and then when the truck doesn't pass inspection have the dealer put in front of the State and notice to the EPA to answer 'why not?'.... the dealer, presumably a licensed dealer, will be inclined to bring it to snuff, or lose the license... any correspondence with them mentioning the delete can now be used against them.



that would be a jerk arse move, though, and it wouldn't make you anyone's favorite person. The dealer is stupid for advertising this in the first place, and they are equally stupid for purchasing (likely an auction where they couldn't spend much if any time with the truck before bidding) the rig for resale... If they had ANY sense, they would have transferred the title to a person on their staff and advertised a private sale instead of a dealer sell... they could even likely get by with 'consignment' sale from their lot... but to put themselves in that kind of predicament? ..... Just not too smart.

I see a lot of dealers selling truck with no dpf, and the states they are for sale in bad emmisions.... How they get away with it idk,, talked to the dealer and they said they would get a dpf for it so it'll pass inspection. I called them out of the dpf. Why would I buy a truck that can't pass inspection? They answerd they will get a dpf.


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the 6.4 is a tricky beast, anyway... on one hand, you'd not want a deleted truck because it likely means the truck was flogged silly- it's difficult at times to have all that power and not play with it... on the other hand, you'd not want a truck (at this point, more than six years out of production) that retains it's emissions, which would indicate the truck has serious issues they create....
 

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the 6.4 is a tricky beast, anyway... on one hand, you'd not want a deleted truck because it likely means the truck was flogged silly- it's difficult at times to have all that power and not play with it... on the other hand, you'd not want a truck (at this point, more than six years out of production) that retains it's emissions, which would indicate the truck has serious issues they create....

It has a gooseneck hitch in it, so it was obvious it was towing, that could be a good sign or they towed with high hp tunes and it's a ticking time bomb. It has a sct tuner, not sure what one yet, trucks clean though, no rust at all


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That's fair enough... functional dpf and egr, and flashed to stock with all the updates... then you buy a tuner and exhaust, and block plates, and undo what they just did, but now having options you didn't have before.
 

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That's fair enough... functional dpf and egr, and flashed to stock with all the updates... then you buy a tuner and exhaust, and block plates, and undo what they just did, but now having options you didn't have before.

Now I'm having second thoughts, they obviously bought it from auction... Trucks that go to auction usually something is wrong, there's no way to tell what tune it used... But I love the look of the truck, and deffintly could see my self driving it.. How common is cracked Pistons? I read about it all the time but don't see what caused them to crack


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The lack of dpf exhaust could be the only reason it was being unloaded at auction... cracked pistons are usually caused by overfueling or under-airing... or both... these idiots who want to roll coal just don't get that... so.. I usually just say "wow, cool' and let them destroy their $20k engine... adding fuel alone is a sloppy path to power... good tunes go about it by leveraging the whole concept of fuel, air, timing, multiple duty cycles per intake event, turbo geometry, temperature readings throughout, ect.... only an idiot would just add fuel to these common rail high pressure computer monitored systems...
 

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The lack of dpf exhaust could be the only reason it was being unloaded at auction... cracked pistons are usually caused by overfueling or under-airing... or both... these idiots who want to roll coal just don't get that... so.. I usually just say "wow, cool' and let them destroy their $20k engine... adding fuel alone is a sloppy path to power... good tunes go about it by leveraging the whole concept of fuel, air, timing, multiple duty cycles per intake event, turbo geometry, temperature readings throughout, ect.... only an idiot would just add fuel to these common rail high pressure computer monitored systems...

The lack of the dpf could be that they were from an area that didn't have emmisions and they know the delete is better for the engine. It is a very clean truck and is optioned and everything the way I want. But I do have my conserns that it is deleted.


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The lack of the dpf could be that they were from an area that didn't have emmisions and they know the delete is better for the engine. It is a very clean truck and is optioned and everything the way I want. But I do have my conserns that it is deleted.


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just so you realize, the DPF is federally mandated- along with the EGR- and it doesn't have anything to do with local safety/emissions inspections. I would seriously be so bold as to compare a properly deleted truck against a stock truck on a bag test, where the exhaust is actually sniffed as opposed to a OBDII and a visual inspection. So, if it was from an area that tested emissions or not, that DPF missing makes it a tough sell and puts the dealer under some pretty stout liability if they don't return it to it's 'stock' form before selling it...

personally, i wouldn't be afraid of a deleted truck... i'd be more afraid of a stock truck, especially a stock truck ran as hard... a deleted truck ran hard spooks me less than a stock truck ran hard... make sense?
 
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