[tapmij]

First off I would like to say hello and thanks for the great site that really helped me with the purchase of my early 99 F350 DRW CC. Lots of information here.

I hate to have a problem with my first post but after reading the posts on here for awhile I knew to check my air filter and it is a stock piece of junk with one clip broken off.

I figured I could pick up the Napa filter, 4 inches of 4" exhaust and a hose clamp and I would be on my way but I have a problem.

1. The posts that I read said nothing about a elbow piece of exhaust so I got a strait one. Problem is that this forces the filter to go straight into the battery and the hose is to rigid to bend to fit the filter into the spot where the old filter went.
(Don't know how to post pictures yet but here is a link that should show the 2nd part of the hose I am referring to http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/415b3569_f789/bc/99+F350/Intake+001.jpg?BCCiH1CBz8.l6KrI)

2. Good news was I am able to get the rubber hose over the new filter and clamp it, but it is still too long and hits the battery.

3. My hose is a 2 piece that connects to a bracket that seems to have an outlet to a breather (I think). Anyway, when I shined a flashlight into the remainder of the hose to look into what I assume is the turbo there appeared to be oil residue on the sides. Is this normal. Also there is dust in there from the bad filter.
( http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/415b3569_f789/bc/99+F350/Intake+003.jpg?BCCiH1CB0T3TrY2B)

Any recomendations? (I know I have opened myself up with that ? and I am ok with that.

Thanks,
Jim

 

[RenoF250]

I did not do the tymar myself but I think others have rotated the exsisting elbow to get the filter to go where they want. The oil is normal and a result of the not so good stock CCV. That is why many of us have modified it a bit to keep the oil from getting into the intake.

 

[tapmij]

The problem is that I don't have an elbow.

 

[SnaykeByte]

Welocome to the site Jim, you will find alot of very helpful people on here, I know I sure have. Most of us running a conical type filter have removed the plastic battery box and trimmed away all of the the old air filter structure from it. This gives you plenty of room to grow then. -Curtis

 

[tapmij]

Curtis,

Thanks for the welcome. I knew I should have addressed the old filter box issue. I have not removed it because I was just checking to make sure that I had everything and that it all lined up. When it didn't fit I stopped. I can pull those four bolts but I will tell you it doesn't look like mine will move into that position.

Jim

 

[fordmastertech]

Click on my signature pics and you will see how I installed the NAPA/Tymar type air filter.
FMT

 

[warrens250]

Jim:
One problem is that each of us has a different year/model truck, and the air intake configurations are different. On my 02, the 4 inch hose is one piece and flexible; I just clamped it onto the NAPA and was done.
I have seen posts that reported they went to a store like home depot or lowes, and found a 4 inch PVC elbow that does the job. I'd take the hose off the truck and take it along. You might also try calling a muffler shop and asking for an elbow. Some shops specializing in adding 4 inch exhausts should have what you need. You could also try a wrecking yard to find a later model truck to scavenge a hose from.

If you browse around the web and look at sites for the various filter manufacturers, you will find filters with the big 4 inch outlet but in smaller sizes and shapes than the big NAPA. One of those might fit where the NAPA won't.

Good Luck
Warren

PS: When you get around to it, create a Signature which will be automatically added to your posts, and include a description of your truck so we know what model and which modifications you have. WSN

 

[eddyzima]

get your self a 4inch 45 degre exhaust elbow and cut it to lenght. it works fine. on the early 99's the original air box comes out at a different angle the the later years. the elbow will make your filter fit right in were your stock airbox was at. hope this helps.

 

[tapmij]

Thanks,
I will try that. Someone had mentioned that people use PVC. Could I go to Home Depot and get a 45 degree piece of black PVC? It sure would be easier to cut at home.

Jim

PS... I will work on the signature line.

 

[FleetMan]

If you have an early '99, the short piece of 4" straight pipe is all you need. You must remove the original air filter box, force the pipe into the filter opening, seal around the pipe and filter opening with some RTV or silicone sealant, insert the other end of the pipe into the rubber hose and secure the clamp. You will have to twist or rotate the end section of rubber hose for the best clearance from the master cylinder and turbo tube. Zip tie the intake air sensor to the nearest bracket behind the old air box. The filter should pretty well center itself in front of the fenderwell air intake opening. I have been running mine setup like that for over three years.

 

[powerstroke73]

I wouldn't use a piece of straight on an early 99. On mine I tried that to begin with but you really need to force things into place. When it was done it was pressing pretty hard on m battery and I didn't want to ruin my insulator or rub a hole in the filter. Instead I went out and got a piece of 45* 4" OD pipe from Napa (way overcharged for it) and made it fit the correct way. It is not forced into place and I don't have to worry about holes getting rubbed in it. On mine I went the extra step and did the CCV mod so I made a solid smooth intake pipe all the way from the filter to the line coming off the turbo itself. I also made a port in the line for my air restriction gauge. I think I've got about $80 invested in mine total including the CCV stuff.

 

[tapmij]

Do you have pictures of the solid pipe? I might as well do this thing once and I would like to get a clean hose anyway.

 

[RockinJW]

RedFrd:

My truck is an 02' and the filter fit perfect with a straight piece of 4" exhaust, I cut mine about 3" long though. I removed the complete airbox, there was four bolts holding it in. I loosened the hose clamp where the intake hose meets up to the plastic bracket you're talking about and just rotated the hose until it was in a position that let the new air filter sit where the old box was. I hope this helps.

 

[JimTJr]

[ QUOTE ]
Some shops specializing in adding 4 inch exhausts should have what you need. You could also try a wrecking yard to find a later model truck to scavenge a hose from.

[/ QUOTE ] Most regular muffler shops wont do anything bigger than 3" pipe. If you want 4" go to a "BIG TRUCK" shop. Peterbuilt, KW, Ect... They have what you need. As far as the early/late, I KNOW ONE of them will work with the straight piece... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif I just dont remember which one,, it looks like from the above posts that the later modle one does. I have both,,, switched from the early 99 box to the later one after I found that my original had a broken tab. The later one then is sitting in my truck with the lid off the air box area and the large NAPA filter lays in there very cleanly and nicely with the original snorkle going into the straight piece of pipe.
Just do what you need to do to make yours fit,,,and you will be very happy with the result of filtration and breathing your truck can get...
I know my turbo sings thru my filter,,and I LOVE it! Fixin to be louder and more radical with the van turbo and ATS n wicked wheel.

 

[BadTrukRisin]

My son's truck is an early 99 and we used a straight piece of 4" pipe and it works well. A word of caution, I would check my clamps every time I do any maintenance. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif
Bud

 

[eddyzima]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks,
I will try that. Someone had mentioned that people use PVC. Could I go to Home Depot and get a 45 degree piece of black PVC? It sure would be easier to cut at home.

Jim

PS... I will work on the signature line.

[/ QUOTE ]the pvc pipe is 4inch id. it would not work for me. the exhaust is 4inch o.d.

 

[tapmij]

Thanks to everyone who provided information. Mine is an early 99 and a straight pipe would not work. I called around and could not find 4" OD with a 45 degree bend so I went to Home Depot and bought a 4" 45 degree piece of black PVC. I sealed it to the filter with gasket sealer and everything fit well. The gasket sealer is still drying so I have not put it in yet but once I install everything I will post a pic.

Jim

 

[FleetMan]

Your early '99 must be different from mine, June 98 build date. I described my setup above and it works for me.

 

[BobWuerthner]

Check out SP Diesel's site. They sell a kit with a 45 elbow and straight pipe. It says the elbow is for early 99. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

 

[powerstroke73]

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Do you have pictures of the solid pipe? I might as well do this thing once and I would like to get a clean hose anyway.

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The pics aren't real good since I had to take them at night, but hopefully it gives the idea.

http://community.webshots.com/album/267214057TSQAis