[NapaBavarian]

Trying to come up with a setup, does anyone here have pictures and/or instructions? I have some ideas, but want to see what has been done first.

Thanks,
Karl

 

[DR435rider]

There are quite a few directions to explore concerning waste oil collection:
electric sump pump
electric impeller pump
12v gear pump
gasoline driven pump
vacuum

The challenge is the viscosity, particularly in the colder seasons.

I first tried one of these little pumps http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=16818&R=16818 but it just couldn't handle the thick grease at 55 degrees. A sump pump seemed to do much better.

I now have a 12v gear pump but doubt it is terribly fast. Some have picked up some gasoline driven pumps that can fill a 55 gallon drum in less than ten minutes.

The vacuum angle seems to be one of the best methods but I haven't geared up for it yet. It requires a tank capable of supporting a pretty good vacuum. A 55 gallon metal (or plastic for that matter) will collapse.

Check the older posts for more ideas. Sorry to not have anything specific.

Todd T

 

[dOGhAIR]

I recently got one of these.
pump
$15
if you have a cordless drill it's a very cheap option, After priming, the pump will move 70 f. oil at 5 gals a minute. That's pretty fast. I havent' tryed it with colder oil.
Before that I have moved a few hundred gallons of oil into a funnel with a 2 quart jug /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

 

[31572]

I use one of those handcrank pumps. I cut a piece of plywood 10:" x 12" and cut a 2.5" hole in the plywood. Take a C-clamp and clamp the wood to the grease bin.

In about 10-15 easy minutes I fill up on 40-50 gallons. It is a little work but I need the exercise ;>

 

[mm0015]

[ QUOTE ]
I use one of those handcrank pumps. I cut a piece of plywood 10:" x 12" and cut a 2.5" hole in the plywood. Take a C-clamp and clamp the wood to the grease bin.

In about 10-15 easy minutes I fill up on 40-50 gallons. It is a little work but I need the exercise ;>

[/ QUOTE ]

Do you have any more info about the pump you use? I plan to pump out WVO from the waste oil tank at a restaurant, and like the sounds of this pump.

 

[31572]

I just went to Harbor Freight (or any farm supply store) ang got their more expensive pump. One pump is aorund 30 bux the other is around 50 bux. It works pretty well. I put a 10 micron filter inline withit so if the oil looks pretty good I just pump it straight into my tanks and burn it. Otherwise I filter it and brew bio-d. Let me know if you need help.

fjk

 

[mm0015]

Would this be the style you are referring too?

link

It says it has a 25 GPM rate. Sounds pretty fast for a hand pump.

Thanks!

 

[CPUNeck]

Hmmm, 25gpm sounds amazing and amazed is what the misses will be when she gets a load of them "guns" you've chiseld out crankin that thing! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

People like me with only pee shooters go with a less strenous method /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif, my gas powered pump really SUCKs. If you click on my sig you can see it in action toward the end of the album. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif

 

[JOAT]

We used a stationary version of the hand cranked pump back in my farm workin' days. As I recall it was a good workout, but put out 1 gallon per 7 cranks on the one we used, about 5-6 seconds per gallon if you pushed it hard! You could fill a 100 gallon fuel tank pretty quick. You definitly need some way of clamping it down. In cases where you can't clamp it to a barrel, maybe attach hoses to it and mount it to a board that you could kneel on while cranking /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

 

[danalinscott]

I use a simple vacuum unit.

A rough schematic is available (free) for download on my website.

This is the url for the free download page

 

[toalpi]

[quoteThe vacuum angle seems to be one of the best methods but I haven't geared up for it yet. It requires a tank capable of supporting a pretty good vacuum. A 55 gallon metal (or plastic for that matter) will collapse.


Todd T

[/ QUOTE ] A fiberglass water tank is NOT suitable for vacuum applications either.

 

[DR435rider]

I stopped by a propane supplier yesterday to ask about old tanks. Mobile tanks have a limited lifespan and must be condemned after something like 12 years (don't quote me). They do have a variety of tanks they get rid of for about $50 to $100. I have an old 100# propane bottle that would work but I hope to find something closer to 75 or 100 gallons to make my vacuum tank.

Dana, did you say a water heater can hold up to vacuum use? A local plumbing supply house has some damaged units available for $50 or so. A 50 to 80 gallon water heater would be nice.

Todd

 

[asnowsquall]

Try http://www.freecycle.org/, you should be able to find a free water tank. Scrapmetal yards have them also, not sure what the charge will the price of steel going up!!Check out the inside. The two I found were lined inside and they are very clean. Pulled 25" vacuum on one of them, they will take vacuum without a problem as most people using them will tell you. Good luck!
Dave





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[a93bowtie]

Tractor Supply had some gas-powered, plastic-bodied trash pumps available. The 5.5hp briggs was $238 and the 3.5 briggs was $214. The plastic body concerns me a bit, but other than that, these seem to be pretty reasonably priced. They also had a two-stroke pump for under $200, but I don't remember which brand it was. CPUNeck- yours looks like a 2-stroke- am I right? Plenty of power? I'm a little worried about starving one of the big 2" pumps by reducing it to 1" in and out.

 

[TruckerDon]

CPU's pump is a 4stroke. I also have a similar unit. PUMP . Mine pumps about 5 gal. a minute through a 5 micron (80% nominal) filter at around 25psi. If I don't run the filter, the flow rate goes up considerably. I have a 55 gal drum in the back of the truck that I'm going to time and pump into my settling tank in the morning (non filtered.) I'll time how long it takes. I'm also going to take some pictures, so you guys can see my setup. It may or may not work for you. I have about $350 in pump, lines, fittings, and valves. Getting WVO isn't any easier than this. CPU was right on track in my opinion. I didn't want to spend that much, but considering that I can probably fill 4 barrels (200 gal!!) on a Sat. morning easily, and be back before cartoons are over, it's definately worth the cash. I'm currently mixing 50/50. This pump saved me about $75 in the last 2 days alone. It'll pay for itself in no time.. Now it's time to buy a tank...

Don.

 

[a93bowtie]

woah-woah-woah... wait a minute- you telling me that you can come out of the restaraunt bins at 5 microns?!? No heat, no settling, just pump and go?

I also came across a strainer that is intended for sprayers. It's got 1" in-n-outs and a cylindrical screen. They have 50 mesh and 80 or 100 mesh (I can't remember which) Anybody know how those convert to microns?

 

[JOAT]

[ QUOTE ]
woah-woah-woah... wait a minute- you telling me that you can come out of the restaraunt bins at 5 microns?!? No heat, no settling, just pump and go?

I also came across a strainer that is intended for sprayers. It's got 1" in-n-outs and a cylindrical screen. They have 50 mesh and 80 or 100 mesh (I can't remember which) Anybody know how those convert to microns?

[/ QUOTE ]

100 mesh is 150 microns, 50 mesh is 300 microns.

LINK to chart

 

[TruckerDon]

No, after it's settled I use the same pump to pump through my filter into my second stage settling pump. I was just happy that this little thing can also generate around 40psi to pump through a filter. I don't even own an electric pump. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Oh, and 55gal, no filter, part throttle = 5 minutes (INCLUDING 30 seconds idle for warmup, and 30 seconds idle for cool down. 77degrees F. This dude rocks. Pictures coming later.

Gotta go harvest at my fav. wings place. Be back in 10... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Don.

 

[dOGhAIR]

[ QUOTE ]
I recently got one of these.
pump
$15


[/ QUOTE ] I killed the litle plastic drill pump by trying to get room temp/settled oil through 3 descending micron sediment filters. It hung in there for 20 gallons and then went snap crackle pop. I will probably buy another as it was impressive until I asked the impossible of it.
Although it would be nice to get a small one like it with metal guts.

 

[BlueMule]

HERE is another chart that compares mesh sizes to microns and inches.