[fyrehose]

I am getting tired of setting code 1211 so I am wondering what options I have. First of all, are there aftermarket injectors that require less oil and give a higher amount of flow (than stock)with the stock HPOP and not set the code? I am wondering if I can get injectors instead of a HPOP and still reap the benefits and gain the same (or close to) amount of HP? I understand you can get close to 400 hP with the HPOP(aftermarket) but will aftermarket injectors do the same with the stock HPOP?

 

[JimTJr]

Single shots do not require as much volume of oil,,but you need a chip burnt to runs single shots. (Hybrids,,,are they the same?) I know the hybrids dont need as much,, I may be cornfused,,,LOL
I think I would GO with BIGOIL first,,,it gives you an increase in drivability and performance with stock injectors. So that would be my first change,,before injectors I think.
THEN THE SKY IS THE LIMIT from there!

 

[Zro]

Mini-mes.

www.dieselinnovations.com

You want these.

 

[444turbodiesel]

I wouldn't feel comfortable with PMR's and big injectors. I just installed brand new Alliant AC single shots and my stock HPOP is having no problems keeping up (no 1209 or 1211 codes) With the DP 6 program chip set at 160 I can fog the highway as long as I want (while watching the pyro climb /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif), and yes, you can get good power out of your stock HPOP if you go to singles.

Either way, (injectors or HPOP) that's a lot of money just to get rid of a code. I needed injectors, and decided to upgrade. If I hadn't needed them, I would have not swapped them. I ended up needing a turbo too, and upgraded to a van. The fact you need a special program to run singles prompted me to upgrade from a SCMT to a DP 6 program chip (stock/40/80/120/160/hi-idle) The only real difference in the programs is the timing, the singles do not run as much advanced timing as the splits.

If your wanting more power and you don't need injectors, I'd start with DP Tuner. If you decide to swap to singles, you can always have him adjust the programming later. Once you do, be careful with that stock turbo, I'm hitting 30PSI with singles and DP's 120 and 160 programs.

on edit: I did manage a 1211 code after a few long romps in the 160hp setting. I was fairly certain that without big oil I'd not get everything the 160hp program could do, but with my mileage I don't think the rest of the engine is up to it anyway.

 

[DrSpeed]

well, i went with injectors instead of big oil. DDP is doing my conversion from splits to Singles, and I got my chip from Jody to do the programming...can't wait to see it all run!

 

[fyrehose]

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I wouldn't feel comfortable with PMR's and big injectors. I just installed brand new Alliant AC single shots and my stock HPOP is having no problems keeping up (no 1209 or 1211 codes) With the DP 6 program chip set at 160 I can fog the highway as long as I want (while watching the pyro climb /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif), and yes, you can get good power out of your stock HPOP if you go to singles.

Either way, (injectors or HPOP) that's a lot of money just to get rid of a code. I needed injectors, and decided to upgrade. If I hadn't needed them, I would have not swapped them. I ended up needing a turbo too, and upgraded to a van. The fact you need a special program to run singles prompted me to upgrade from a SCMT to a DP 6 program chip (stock/40/80/120/160/hi-idle) The only real difference in the programs is the timing, the singles do not run as much advanced timing as the splits.

If your wanting more power and yo don't need injectors, I'd start with DP Tuner. If you decide to swap to singles, you can always have him adjust the programming later.

[/ QUOTE ]Thanks, this info is exactly what I am looking for. As for the PMR's yes I am a little afraid, but don't you have PMR's on your 01?

 

[Kanman]

Ima go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that ANYTHING with the numbers 5 3 0 in it, are gonna need big oil to live up to their intent. Call me silly, but thats just the feeling I gets. OP I think stage 2's are probably what you are looking for.

 

[bigrpowr]

not hybrids! but i think i'll get a terminator anyway. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[POWERSTROKE RACER]

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Ima go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that ANYTHING with the numbers 5 3 0 in it, are gonna need big oil to live up to their intent . Call me silly, but thats just the feeling I gets. OP I think stage 2's are probably what you are looking for.

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3 years of proven performance with stock HPOP.

 

[444turbodiesel]

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I wouldn't feel comfortable with PMR's and big injectors. I just installed brand new Alliant AC single shots and my stock HPOP is having no problems keeping up (no 1209 or 1211 codes) With the DP 6 program chip set at 160 I can fog the highway as long as I want (while watching the pyro climb /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif), and yes, you can get good power out of your stock HPOP if you go to singles.

Either way, (injectors or HPOP) that's a lot of money just to get rid of a code. I needed injectors, and decided to upgrade. If I hadn't needed them, I would have not swapped them. I ended up needing a turbo too, and upgraded to a van. The fact you need a special program to run singles prompted me to upgrade from a SCMT to a DP 6 program chip (stock/40/80/120/160/hi-idle) The only real difference in the programs is the timing, the singles do not run as much advanced timing as the splits.

If your wanting more power and yo don't need injectors, I'd start with DP Tuner. If you decide to swap to singles, you can always have him adjust the programming later.

[/ QUOTE ]Thanks, this info is exactly what I am looking for. As for the PMR's yes I am a little afraid, but don't you have PMR's on your 01?

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Yes, and that is why I went with stock 444E single shots (instead of the 530 variants) and a chip from DP. They only flow about 10% more than stock injectors, and don't need as much oil to run. At this point, I don't see a need for an HPOP with the power I'm getting. I'm smoking thoughout the RPM range and have yet to see a 1209 or 1211 code. Jody has done CP testing and knows how to make PMR safe programs.

 

[TheHammer69]

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I wouldn't feel comfortable with PMR's and big injectors. I just installed brand new Alliant AC single shots and my stock HPOP is having no problems keeping up (no 1209 or 1211 codes) With the DP 6 program chip set at 160 I can fog the highway as long as I want (while watching the pyro climb /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif), and yes, you can get good power out of your stock HPOP if you go to singles.

Either way, (injectors or HPOP) that's a lot of money just to get rid of a code. I needed injectors, and decided to upgrade. If I hadn't needed them, I would have not swapped them. I ended up needing a turbo too, and upgraded to a van. The fact you need a special program to run singles prompted me to upgrade from a SCMT to a DP 6 program chip (stock/40/80/120/160/hi-idle) The only real difference in the programs is the timing, the singles do not run as much advanced timing as the splits.

If your wanting more power and yo don't need injectors, I'd start with DP Tuner. If you decide to swap to singles, you can always have him adjust the programming later.

[/ QUOTE ]Thanks, this info is exactly what I am looking for. As for the PMR's yes I am a little afraid, but don't you have PMR's on your 01?

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Yes, and that is why I went with stock 444E single shots (instead of the 530 variants) and a chip from DP. They only flow about 10% more than stock injectors, and don't need as much oil to run. At this point, I don't see a need for an HPOP with the power I'm getting. I'm smoking thoughout the RPM range and have yet to see a 1209 or 1211 code. Jody has done CP testing and knows how to make PMR safe programs.

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now we got to get you big oil to get the smoke cleaned up.

Hammer

 

[444turbodiesel]

I don't know if that's the answer or more boost. I'm not getting any codes from the HPOP pressure and the smoke starts to clear when the turbo spools, and at 28-29PSI it's almost gone. I'm going to do the AIS fender mod this week and see where that gets me. The lag of this turbo is more obvious now that I've been driving it a while and getting used to the power (still grinning though) I still have the stock compressor wheel that came with it, I sent FOMOGO an almost new one to continue his testing. Once I see that, I may switch back from the WW.

 

[Zro]

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Ima go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that ANYTHING with the numbers 5 3 0 in it, are gonna need big oil to live up to their intent . Call me silly, but thats just the feeling I gets. OP I think stage 2's are probably what you are looking for.

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3 years of proven performance with stock HPOP.

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That's why I posted that link to DI guys. Mini-mes run with stock HPOP.

I'm getting those soon hopefully. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif

 

[f250power]

Check the for sale section! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif

 

[444turbodiesel]

You probably have early forged rods, he doesn't. I don't know if I'd run mini-me's on PMR's, although I guess it depends on how wild you get with the chip.

 

[Kanman]

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Ima go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that ANYTHING with the numbers 5 3 0 in it, are gonna need big oil to live up to their intent . Call me silly, but thats just the feeling I gets. OP I think stage 2's are probably what you are looking for.

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3 years of proven performance with stock HPOP.

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And with big oil?

 

[GSXRTURBOQUAD]

There's a great question! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

Oh, back to the original question: Big Oil of course, as JimT said! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

My 01 has it with stock injectors. I can only say "OMG!" That's how a PSD is supposed to run! Better mileage, cleaner emissions, more torque, and better throttle response. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif

If only Ford would have raised ICP on the 7.3(i.e. larger oil system or more efficient injectors), maybe there would have never been the POS 6 leaker! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[superf350]

If there wasn't a "6 leaker" I'd be driving a dodge! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

 

[POWERSTROKE RACER]

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If there wasn't a "6 leaker" I'd be driving a dodge! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

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"Ignorance is Bliss" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[ptsuperd]

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If there wasn't a "6 leaker" I'd be driving a dodge!


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"Ignorance is Bliss"


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lmao.

Aren't you "owned" by a Dodge? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif