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Good luck in getting a truck inyour driveway in 6 weeks. I ordered on Jun 04, 2007. My truck was supposed to be built this week. I am waiting patiently to see if it is going to arrive the week of Aug 20 per my salesman. That will be 12 weeks after I ordered if the KTP did not shut down this week as mentioned in the blue-oval forum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/depressed.gif

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We will be back at work next week. This down week was due to a parts problem rather than sales. Hope you get your truck ASAP.
 

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Are your numbers as strong as last year?

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Thus far, no.

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BTW, have you guys seen any Job 2 trucks w/ the chrome pkg. yet?

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Not yet, but am expecting a few within the next week.
 

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I don't think this could be farther from the truth. A very reliable source who works for Toyota tells me they have let go all temps at their larger truck plant and have slowed the line to the lowest times possible. This truck is not selling well and has not met sales projections yet. My opinion is the styling is not the best and the price is second highest in the field next to Nissan.

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I don't know your source so I cannot comment on accuracy, but this is from an official Toyo press release:

"Light truck sales were led by the all-new Tundra full-size pickup with all-time best-ever sales of 23,150, an increase of 134.5 percent over the year-ago month."

Seeing how Toyo's sales goal was 200,000 Tundras in MY 2007, seems to me 23,000 in one month is doing pretty good.

I have read that Toyo can't give away regular cabs, and only the IN plant is making the CrewMax. So it might be a problem with product mix, not overall sales.

I dunno, but the rebates have been lowered.
 

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Called Ford today; person said my F350 4x4 manual crew was being built today and due to be at the dealer 8/27. Was the plant partially shutdown or did the system just show her it was stuck on the line?
 

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Called Ford today; person said my F350 4x4 manual crew was being built today and due to be at the dealer 8/27. Was the plant partially shutdown or did the system just show her it was stuck on the line?

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Stuck on line. We dont go back til Monday. Been down all week. So I dont know where they get their info.
 

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I don't think this could be farther from the truth. A very reliable source who works for Toyota tells me they have let go all temps at their larger truck plant and have slowed the line to the lowest times possible. This truck is not selling well and has not met sales projections yet. My opinion is the styling is not the best and the price is second highest in the field next to Nissan.

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You need to check your source:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070810/AUTO01/708100322/1148

Also, Tundra sales from 1/01/07 through 7/31/07 are 106,000 units. Pretty good considering that the new Tundra did not go on sale until February.
 

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I will definately say something to her about that while she's fixing supper. You would think after working there 15+years she would know what's going on. You did read the part about the incentives didn't you.
 

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I will definately say something to her about that while she's fixing supper. You would think after working there 15+years she would know what's going on.

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I am not saying that the info is wrong, but maybe out of context. Toyo could be laying people off. I have read that the regular cab models are not selling well and I don't think that you can give away a 6 cylinder. 5.7L CrewMax's are moving well, but I don't think that they are building those in SA yet, just IN. So the SA plant might be a little light right now.


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You did read the part about the incentives didn't you.

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I saw that. But around here, the Toyo rebates are down. 60 month 0% is now 48 month. $3500 rebate is now $3000.

GM rebates, on the other hand, are going up. Dodge is already at $6000/truck, so I don't see those moving up any time soon. Ford's F-150 inventory does not look that bad (info from Automotive News), so I don't see any big move one way or the other on the F-150.

Like George said, just wait for the F-250. Production is down 9% so far this year. The big sales pop with the 08 redesign has fizzled, so bigger rebates are coming.
 

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Good luck in getting a truck inyour driveway in 6 weeks. I ordered on Jun 04, 2007. My truck was supposed to be built this week. I am waiting patiently to see if it is going to arrive the week of Aug 20 per my salesman. That will be 12 weeks after I ordered if the KTP did not shut down this week as mentioned in the blue-oval forum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/depressed.gif

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First question you ask your sales manager is "do you have allotment?
I think you got screwed by a dealer without allotment to sell.
My truck was ordered July 16, due to be built next week and in my driveway the next week. All of this would have happened a week sooner if KTP didn't shut down.
 

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I don't know if the "pop" fizzled..
I seriously think the day of the big vehicle is over.
The SD line attracted everybody for a long time, but now that fuel costs are starting to cut a LOT deeper into the household budget, what does the average person do? Drive a big rig and not go on vacation, or buy a smaller truck/car/import and save an extra $20.00 a week...
 

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I think you couldn't be more right. I remember about 7-years ago our local dealership was selling F250's to people without trailers or a farm. Now these people will probably not be back in the that market with fuel costs staying high. Also everyone who has a full size crew knows what it's like to try to park in a parking garage /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif, drive thru the bank(watch those mirrors), go to a restaurant on a weekend(you want me to park there?). If I didn't need it I would have a smaller vehicle.
 

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I think you couldn't be more right. I remember about 7-years ago our local dealership was selling F250's to people without trailers or a farm. Now these people will probably not be back in the that market with fuel costs staying high. Also everyone who has a full size crew knows what it's like to try to park in a parking garage /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif, drive thru the bank(watch those mirrors), go to a restaurant on a weekend(you want me to park there?). If I didn't need it I would have a smaller vehicle.

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You're right in that respect as I sold a F-350 SD CC long bed and ordered a F-250 SD Supercab shortbed just so I could once again experience parking in a regular space and not have to park 1/2 mile away. When I had my 5th wheel, I needed the long bed, but now I don't. I still pack around the grandkids once in a while, but they will have to be satisfied with a smaller back seat. It'll make 'um tough.
 

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I agree as well..fuel has finally pissed me off but I need a big truck as well.

The presidental elections play apart. US needs to know which way it's going to go and what is going to happen to Irag and friends. People stop buying long term purchases.

Prices too. Seems they've went up almost 2k a year.
 

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I don't know if the "pop" fizzled..
I seriously think the day of the big vehicle is over.
The SD line attracted everybody for a long time, but now that fuel costs are starting to cut a LOT deeper into the household budget, what does the average person do? Drive a big rig and not go on vacation, or buy a smaller truck/car/import and save an extra $20.00 a week...

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You are old enough to remember what happened in 1973. Price is less important than how fast price goes up.

My dad sold gas in the 40s for $0.19/gallon. Even when gas was "cheap" 3-4 years ago, it was still $1.00-$1.50/gallon. Still, everyone bought gas pigs. The difference is that prices went up over 60 years, not 12 months.

At the end of the day, people want fast cars, big cars, more cars. Once "sticker shock" wears off, and people's monthly budgets re-adjusted (which might take a few years), the big car will be back.

Human nature.
 

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I agree.
I think everybody would rather drive something bigger with more room and storage, but right now, fuel mileage is the hot topic again.
This all went down back in the early 80's as well. People were trading in their nice vehicles for little $hit boxes to save a buck on gas.
I think the difference now is that there is tons more debt in the average household than back in those days. Now, saving money on fuel is not an option, but rather a necessity..
 
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