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My new truck came with a key that has the buttons on it to unlock the truck. Its a little bulky in my pocket with all of the other keys that I have on the ring.Can I take a regular coded key and have it programed or will that not work?
 

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Great!!! Thank you
 

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That may read as if the 80 bit key must come from Ford. You can buy it at any place that sells them as long as it has the 80 bit chip. You need two previously programmed keys to program a new key after it is cut to fit your truck. See owner's manual on the simple process with two previously programmed keys.
 

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I need to read up on how to disable the passive alarm
 

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Not sure you can disable PATS. That is one reason I went with the fob. I use it to lock and unlock truck. This avoids setting off the PATS alarm.
 

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I think I read in the owners manual that it can be turned off




ANTI-THEFT ALARM (IF EQUIPPED)
The system warns you of an unauthorized entry to your vehicle. It triggers if any door or the hood opens without using the key, remote control or keyless entry keypad.
The direction indicators flash and the horn sounds if the system triggers while the alarm is armed.
Take all remote controls to an authorized dealer if there is any potential alarm problem with your vehicle.
Arming the Alarm
The alarm is ready to arm when there is not a key in the ignition. Electronically lock the vehicle to arm the alarm.
The direction indicators flash once after you lock the vehicle. This indicates the alarm is in the pre-armed mode. It will fully arm in 20 seconds.
 

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What you have pasted from the manual is not how it can be turned off for entry into the vehicle and activated when exiting and more about how the alarm is controlled with a key or keypad or remote fob. I do not think PATS can be totally deactivated by the owner. It it were possible, then you would not need a chip in the key.
 

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The PATS is the anti theft part that can not be disabled. It is the part that disables the start and fuel if the vehicle does not sense the transponder in the key. The perimeter alarm is the part that sounds the horn and flashes the lights if the door is opened without using the remote.

DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
Anti-Theft
The perimeter anti-theft alarm system consists of the following:
Door ajar input
Door lock control switch input
Hood switch
Horn
Integrated Keyhead Transmitter (IKT) key
Keyless entry keypad
Passive Anti-Theft System (PATS) key read
Turn signals
Body Control Module (BCM)
The perimeter alarm system protects the vehicle from unauthorized entry by
sounding the horn and flashing both the turn signals and courtesy lights when an
unauthorized entry occurs. The horn and lights are active for 30 seconds. After
30 seconds, the horn stops sounding, but the lights continue to flash for up to
5 minutes.
The perimeter alarm only activates 10 times per arming cycle. After that the
alarm does not activate. To enable the perimeter alarm again, disarm the
perimeter alarm and then arm it again.
Arming the Perimeter Alarm
The perimeter alarm is ready to arm any time the ignition is off. Any of the
following pre-arms the alarm system:
pressing the LOCK button on an IKT.
pressing the door lock control switch to the lock position with the door open,
then closing the door.
pressing the 7/8 and 9/0 buttons simultaneously on the keyless entry keypad.
Once the system is pre-armed, there is a 20-second countdown before the
perimeter alarm is armed. Each entry point to the vehicle (hood or door) are
armed separately and must be closed before that entry point begins the 20-second
countdown to become armed. If all entry points are closed, the turn signals
flash indicating that all entry points are entering the 20-second countdown.
Perimeter Alarm Activation
The perimeter alarm has a 12-second delay when the driver door is unlocked using
a key in the door lock cylinder and then opened. During the delay, a chime
sounds and "TO STOP ALARM START VEHICLE" is displayed in the message center. If
the perimeter alarm is not disarmed within the 12-second delay, the alarm is
activated.
The perimeter alarm is activated when:
any passenger door or the hood is opened without first receiving an electronic
unlock command from an IKT or keyless entry keypad.
the driver door is opened without first receiving an unlock command from an
IKT or keyless entry keypad and the 12-second delay has expired.
the ignition is turned to the RUN position without a valid PATS key read
received.
Disarming the Perimeter Alarm
The perimeter alarm can be disarmed by:
pressing the UNLOCK button on a programmed IKT.
using a programmed IKT to transition the ignition to the RUN position.
entering the correct vehicle unlock code on the keyless entry keypad.
The perimeter alarm can be deactivated by pressing the PANIC button on an IKT.
All of the lamps stop flashing and the horn stops sounding, but the alarm is
still armed.
Panic Alarm
The panic alarm operates similar to the perimeter alarm, but is only controlled
by the panic button on the IKT. Refer to HANDLES, LOCKS, LATCHES AND ENTRY
SYSTEMS for information on the panic alarm operation.

It looks like as long as you turn the key on within 12 seconds of opening the door it won't set off the alarm. I know when I have had to open my truck without the remote it starts to chirp until I get the key in it. The other technique that should work is to manually lock the door before you get out. Maybe hit the power door lock button before you shut the truck off then manually lock the driver door on your way out. It may be possible to turn off the perimeter with a programming tool.
 

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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
The perimeter alarm is what I want to turn off.
 

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Do you know if the Perimeter Alarm is actually installed on your truck? It was not included on my 2015. I had to add it as a kit.

If you have it installed, then you will need to insert the jumper to disable the Perimeter Alarm.
 

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If I unlock the door with the key, It starts the count down to going off. I have to insert the key in the column to stop it
 

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If I unlock the door with the key, It starts the count down to going off. I have to insert the key in the column to stop it
That is PATS. See Page 60 of your owner's manual

Disarming the Alarm
Disarm the alarm by any of the following
actions:
• Press the power door unlock button
within the 20-second pre-armed mode.
• Unlock the doors with the remote
control or keyless entry keypad.
• Switch the ignition on or start the
vehicle.
• Use a key in the driver door to unlock
the vehicle, then switch the ignition on
within 12 seconds.
Note: Pressing the panic button on the
remote control will stop the horn and signal
indicators, but will not disarm the system.
 

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Thats why I was asking about the regular coded key, If I disarmed the PATS would a regular coded key work
 

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If you want to "disable PATS", you can try doing as Delta Airlines did years ago when they were paying unrealistic costs to have locksmiths come out to the airports to program new keys after the various Delta personal "lost" the chip keys. They took a "programmed" chip and epoxied it to the steering column so the PATS receiver would find it. Then they had non-chip keys cut to use in the vehicles.

That works fine on the older PATS, not sure about current PATS setup. You can try taping a programmed chip to the column and see what happens. You will need a non-chip key to test it.

Not sure what your insurance company would say if someone stole your truck.
 

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I dont think you understand what Im trying to do.
 

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I don't think you understand PATS. You can not disable PATS. PATS requires a security key with an 80 bit chip to disable alarm and/or start vehicle to disable alarm when entering by the door lock with the key. With all the electronics on these trucks,the computer will not let you start the vehicle without PATS.

If you had perimeter alarm, you could disable it. perimeter alarm does not require a security key with 80 bit chip. It is a totally separate security system such as Viper and others.

They are totally separate and different. You are confusing the two.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecuriLock

That is all I am going to say about this topic.
 

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Millwrightdude:

I have spare keys for my 2013 without the fob buttons. None of my keys won't disable the PATS when using the key hole because there is no sensor to pickup the chip in the door key hole. My wife's 2013 Ford Edge the sensor picks up the PATS chip when standing outside the car so it doesn't count down like our trucks. The reason they (Ford) don't allow a way to disable the PATS is so that thieves won't have a way to disarm it.
 

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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
What I want to do is get rid of the key with the lock/unlock buttons, is it possible to use a coded key?
 
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