[FionaThe02PSD]

OK, the new found all day power of the Big Oil is wearing off. I am thinking about putting the PS2000 back on or trading it for a NOS setup. Ideas??

Yes, I know I have PMR's and the 400 HP mark (With low CP's) is the maximum safe level. I don't think I am currently over 350, do you?

 

[gregrob]

I'd check into some stage ones. Unless you only want to race, NOS is pretty worthless for usable power for towing etc

 

[FionaThe02PSD]

Wouldn't stage I's put me well over the "Safe" mark? I only tow in the summer time (7K boat) and the rest of the time I am unloaded and racing everything that moves. Even with the new HPOS I am throwing a bunch of smoke in the 80HP setting so I thought the 'Bigger turbo in a bottle' solution was possible.

 

[gregrob]

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Wouldn't stage I's put me well over the "Safe" mark? I only tow in the summer time (7K boat) and the rest of the time I am unloaded and racing everything that moves. Even with the new HPOS I am throwing a bunch of smoke in the 80HP setting so I thought the 'Bigger turbo in a bottle' solution was possible.

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I would want more controlled boost than the 'turbo in a bottle'. If you can't drag any more boost out of the BB, then I would look at an H2E, although I think the BB will do the job w/stage 1's.

Remember, bigger injectors will spool the turbo harder and make it clean up better, more boost.

Take a look at this thread, Click Me it has a lot of good info on making PMR-safe power.

This is a quote take from SappsPSD in that thread.

***** DP-TUNER 6 POS *****

BDP Stage 1 Single shots
Stealth HPOP
H2e
Full Fuel system with pickup and SX pump

intake, exhaust and trans or clutch mods of course

This is one serious towing setup. Over 250K miles on the clock towing commercially across the 48.


It would be very important to have the proper tuning, and you may not squeeze every drop out of this setup, just a good reliable program that won't be snappin rods.

 

[POWERSTROKE RACER]

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Wouldn't stage I's put me well over the "Safe" mark? I only tow in the summer time (7K boat) and the rest of the time I am unloaded and racing everything that moves. Even with the new HPOS I am throwing a bunch of smoke in the 80HP setting so I thought the 'Bigger turbo in a bottle' solution was possible.

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Something is wrong with that combo if your not cleaning up.
that turbo and big oil should clean up an extreme program.

on edit just reread your sig.
Buy the BB turbo and be happy.
BTW what size is your Down pipe?

 

[FionaThe02PSD]

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Wouldn't stage I's put me well over the "Safe" mark? I only tow in the summer time (7K boat) and the rest of the time I am unloaded and racing everything that moves. Even with the new HPOS I am throwing a bunch of smoke in the 80HP setting so I thought the 'Bigger turbo in a bottle' solution was possible.

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I would want more controlled boost than the 'turbo in a bottle'. If you can't drag any more boost out of the BB, then I would look at an H2E, although I think the BB will do the job w/stage 1's.

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I don't have the BB yet so I don't know if it will clean it up or not. I do have the PS2K though and would trade it for a NOS setup if it would help more than the LPG. I have spent some major $ on this rig in the last 6 months and I don't believe the marriage will take much more without a "Pause" in the action. Thus the use what you have or trade for it attitude..


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Remember, bigger injectors will spool the turbo harder and make it clean up better, more boost.

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Wouldn't bigger injectors add more fuel and therefore MORE smoke?

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Take a look at this thread,

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I read his post when it came out but he is more interested in towing than the "SPEED" I need..

 

[FionaThe02PSD]

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Wouldn't stage I's put me well over the "Safe" mark? I only tow in the summer time (7K boat) and the rest of the time I am unloaded and racing everything that moves. Even with the new HPOS I am throwing a bunch of smoke in the 80HP setting so I thought the 'Bigger turbo in a bottle' solution was possible.

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Something is wrong with that combo if your not cleaning up.
that turbo and big oil should clean up an extreme program.

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What could it be? I too thought that the Big Oil should clean up stock injectors..

Maybe I should wait for the updated burn before doing anything. I just thought if one or the other was a good choice then I would have the chip burnt accordingly..

 

[Kanman]

Seems like an easy enough answer to me. Get ya some real rods, rev kit, head studs and maybe some headers. Personally I would love to see just how much power can actually be made with stock injectors and oil.

 

[Kanman]

I missed the "To Do" list. Thought you already had the BB installed. Yeah, I would definitely be doing that deal next.

 

[FionaThe02PSD]

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I missed the "To Do" list. Thought you already had the BB installed. Yeah, I would definitely be doing that deal next.

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Did you also miss the " <font color="black"> </font> I don't believe the marriage will take much more without a "Pause" in the action. Thus the use what you have or trade for it attitude..

I would like nothing better than to put in new billet rods and new heads with porting and monster injectors but....

The question is: Should I put the PS2K back on or trade it for a NOS setup? Unless of course neither is a good choice..

 

[FionaThe02PSD]

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Wouldn't stage I's put me well over the "Safe" mark? I only tow in the summer time (7K boat) and the rest of the time I am unloaded and racing everything that moves. Even with the new HPOS I am throwing a bunch of smoke in the 80HP setting so I thought the 'Bigger turbo in a bottle' solution was possible.

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Something is wrong with that combo if your not cleaning up.
that turbo and big oil should clean up an extreme program.

on edit just reread your sig.
Buy the BB turbo and be happy.
BTW what size is your Down pipe?

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I still have the stock down pipe. I just straight piped it. Should the addition of a 4" turbo back system clear up this issue? I have also contemplated stacks.. They might just be a little to "*******" for me though..

 

[KML]

You'll go broke racing around everyday /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gifwith Nitrous and I'm not sure if you really have the fuel for Nitrous to make much of a difference for the cost. It really is just for racing.

Your chip is already burned for propane? Your PS2000 is not a radical setup and isn't really affected by anything else you have done, unless it's a hot chip with way advanced timing.
You could also adjust it down to lower hp levels. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I just have not heard of anyone with one of the new HPOP's and propane to be able know if they play together well. So, I'm not much help there.

Mine is just barely over stock , with just dinosaur 70 hp chip, exhaust and propane. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif Dyno sheets on the mfg website, show similar setups to mine at about 370-389 rwhp. How much is the "$big oil$" supposed to give you? That way you could make a better determination and since your "wife" oops I meant life /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gifdepends on it, maybe you should just leave it as is!! At least for a while!

 

[POWERSTROKE RACER]

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Wouldn't stage I's put me well over the "Safe" mark? I only tow in the summer time (7K boat) and the rest of the time I am unloaded and racing everything that moves. Even with the new HPOS I am throwing a bunch of smoke in the 80HP setting so I thought the 'Bigger turbo in a bottle' solution was possible.

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Something is wrong with that combo if your not cleaning up.
that turbo and big oil should clean up an extreme program.

on edit just reread your sig.
Buy the BB turbo and be happy.
BTW what size is your Down pipe?

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I still have the stock down pipe. I just straight piped it. Should the addition of a 4" turbo back system clear up this issue? I have also contemplated stacks.. They might just be a little to "*******" for me though..

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The simple thing would be to tell the wifey just how life works and tell her to deal with it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
or tell her that diamond earrings come with every turbo purchase for a limited time only $2150.00 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif
An exhaust system would help out as well.

 

[FionaThe02PSD]

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You'll go broke racing around everyday /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gifwith Nitrous and I'm not sure if you really have the fuel for Nitrous to make much of a difference for the cost. It really is just for racing.

Your chip is already burned for propane? Your PS2000 is not a radical setup and isn't really affected by anything else you have done, unless it's a hot chip with way advanced timing.
You could also adjust it down to lower hp levels. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I just have not heard of anyone with one of the new HPOP's and propane to be able know if they play together well. So, I'm not much help there.

Mine is just barely over stock , with just dinosaur 70 hp chip, exhaust and propane. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif Dyno sheets on the mfg website, show similar setups to mine at about 370-389 rwhp. How much is the "$big oil$" supposed to give you? That way you could make a better determination and since your "wife" oops I meant life /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gifdepends on it, maybe you should just leave it as is!! At least for a while!

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If I installed the NOS it would be for "Emergency" use only. The LPG would be way to tempting to adjust.. Am I answering my own question?

I had the chip custom burnt for the PS2K then just had it redone to take into account the Big Oil without the LPG because I was told it would be too much HP (Is there such a thing). ARGH..

It really isn't a huge increase in numbers just the usability of what you have by maximizing what you have already done. The thing pulls all the way to redline instead of peaking at 2500 and trailing off.

 

[GSXRTURBOQUAD]

Ok, nobody asked so I will: What is your ICP pressure at WOT?

Mine is 3800psi at WOT and I have NO smoke, not even a haze, with stock injectors, stock turbo, and even stock exhaust /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif(ya I know, EGT's! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif). /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

 

[PSDHokie]

3800psi? Which big oil setup are you running?

 

[imelmo]

Only babies use bottles.

 

[duallyduty]

[quoteThe simple thing would be to tell the wifey just how life works and tell her to deal with it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
or tell her that diamond earrings come with every turbo purchase for a limited time only $2150.00 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif
An exhaust system would help out as well.

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Haha, i'm sure that would solve every marriage problem! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[PSDHokie]

Never mind I re-read your sig, and saw the pic of your HPOP in you pictures. I was wondering when someone was going to mount a second HPOP where the steering pumps go on the T444Es

 

[FionaThe02PSD]

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Ok, nobody asked so I will: What is your ICP pressure at WOT?

Mine is 3800psi at WOT and I have NO smoke, not even a haze, with stock injectors, stock turbo, and even stock exhaust /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif(ya I know, EGT's! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif). /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif

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The pressures are just over 3100 but at only 30% duty cycle.. I don't know what the issue is but the pressures seem to be fine. Jody has said that he came up with a few new tweaks that should help. The SES light is still tripping constantly (P1211 HPOP <> requested) so hopefully the adjustment will take care of that as well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

The smoke does clear up some but it is real heavy for the first 4-5 seconds (Yes, I know the turbo hasn't spooled yet) but this is in the 80HP setting!! I am controlling the mesquito population in the 140 HP setting!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif