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Like the title says, who makes a new "smallish" SUV with a diesel? Were looking at something about like a Ford Explorer or expidition, Chevy Tahoe, or the like.
She has put up with, and finally agrees with my BD habit, and now she wants one too.

Were looking to buy new, and yes I already know about the "biodiesel will void your warranty" stuff.

I'm in Texas, so it has to be available in the US.

Does anybody know who makes a SUV, which will work well on BD?
 

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There are only 2 smaller SUV's around that are new. The Jeep Liberty and the BMW X3. Ford only has the Excursion for a diesel SUV and Chevy does not have one at all.
 

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The Liberty's very peppy, and has good fuel economy, and doesn't cost as much as the BMW or some other luxury options (is the Mercedes G-wagen even still available here?)

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The wagon is not here anymore, but Mercedes is giong to import their new 320 sedan in 2007 along with other diesels from what I have heard/read. That is a nice engine in that car.
 

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We have a Liberty, very peppy, nice SUV. Can tow 5,000 pounds too from what I hear, we don't tow with it because of the Powerstrokes we already have, but I'd go for the Liberty, runs great with biodiesel too!
 

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I totally forgot that VW has a V10 diesel Taureg (SP?). It has 310Hp and I think 520TQ. Very strong numbers and I like the car as well. I see one at work from time to time and think I could really have fun in that.
 

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I totally forgot that VW has a V10 diesel Taureg (SP?). It has 310Hp and I think 520TQ. Very strong numbers and I like the car as well. I see one at work from time to time and think I could really have fun in that.

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If you want one of those, you're going to have to pick it up used - they got a few hundred in the US at the end of the 2004 model year, then the EPA hosed them for 2005 and they had to cancel the scheduled US production for that year. I guess they gave up for 2006/2007 since the ULSD will change everything again. Here's hoping it comes back.

I heard one at a filling station once - very quiet!!

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Re: Not exactly "smallish", but...

Im not a chevy guy, but i think that duramax suburban is pretty cool. Im tryin to talk mom into trading her suburban(gasser) in and getting one of those. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 

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Re: Not exactly "smallish", but...

There are many that hope you're correct about this. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif
 

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The diesel suburbon is cool but I'll keep my 04 4x4 PSD Excursion. It's a great truck.
 

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There are only 2 smaller SUV's around that are new. The Jeep Liberty and the BMW X3. Ford only has the Excursion for a diesel SUV and Chevy does not have one at all.

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I would have liked that BMW--looked on the BMW web site and saw gasser listed only--did I miss something?
 

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The Ford PSD Excursion is a great looking/sounding SUV. Lifted up, it looks even better. 6.0L PSD, that thing rocks! It isn't small, but it an awesome truck.

My $0.02,

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I don't know about the Liberty having such good mileage. I heard a commercial for it the other day and I thought they said up to 26 mpg. I didn't think that was too impressive and thought I misheard the commercial. I looked it up on their site and it is that low! It was 22/city, 26/hwy. That is not very impressive. Our 3.0L V6 Ford Escape AWD that we had would get 24 mpg average city/hwy in a comparable vehicle. I was really considering one of these Libertys until I heard this, they have to do much better than that. It still would be an improvement over the wife's Pacifica though!
 

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" I was really considering one of these Libertys until I heard this, they have to do much better than that. It still would be an improvement over the wife's Pacifica though!"

Can your Pacifica tow 5,000 lbs?

Avoid the first year Liberties, they had transmission problems.
 

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The VW has a cool engine, and they are really nice to drive, but the reliability is lame. So many dumb problems that you would hate it. I run an independent VW garage and I never suggest the Touareg to my customers (with any of the engine choices).

FWIW, this is the engine that Audi based their LeMans winning racecar on.
 

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The Pacifica doesn't tow anything, that is what my F250 is for! My Golf is for my work commute, it would be nice having all diesels for when I start making biodiesel, but like I said the Liberty needs to do better than 26 mpg, I don't need it for towing.
 

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According to my local rep, Ford should come out with an Expedition LX with a diesel option in 2007.

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They told me the same lie in 97, 98 and again in 99 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vomit.gif when I finally read about the Ex PDS. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif That's why I ordered and got the first one on the east coast in August 99. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Still got it. Put 325/50 20's on it in '01. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif I wish I could have bought a VW Diesel v-10 in 04. They pull stronger than the 00 PSD. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif They were unobtainable when I went to find one. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif

Chrysler will have a line up of benz powered units in 6 months or so. We'll have to wait. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 

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"FWIW, this is the engine that Audi based their LeMans winning racecar on."
I haven't heard anything on this yet but, it sure would be
nice to know. It's a fascinating turn of events. It changed
a lot of peoples perceptions of what a diesel is capable of. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif
 
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