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Okay I purchased the EGR delete kit and will be doing the install myself. Do i have to do anything when i do the delete on my 6.0. Or is the kit good to go by itself. I am doing this because i had the standard oil cooler and egr cooler failure. Thanks in advance.
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If you are deep enough into the engine to do the oil cooler replacement, the egr delete will be a piece of cake. The EGR will come off with the intake and replacing it at that point is, as they say in Boston, "wicked easy."

To put the delete in, just connect the rubber hose where the other one was, then just slide the u-pipe into the other end. The end of the egr delete pipe that has an o-ring on it pushes into the bottom of the intake. How that is held into place depends on the kit you purchased, but I believe that there will be a flat oval piece of aluminum that is slotted and has 2 drilled/tapped holes in it. The slot cut out of that piece goes around the u-pipe you just installed into the intake, the gasket side of that aluminum piece goes toward the intake. The two bolts come in from the top of the intake near where the EGR valve is. Thread those through the aluminum piece. Your done installing your EGR delete, except for installing the new up-pipe.
When you do this step, I will caution you that there is a metal gasket between the y-pipe that comes off the turbo and the new pipe you are going to install. Don't forget to put that in there. It will leak if you don't, don't ask how I know this.
Tighten the two bolts that hold your new up-pipe to the y-pipe.
LOOSELY install two bolts through the exhaust manifold on the passenger side.
Finish all the other stuff as far as re-installing the intake from you oil cooler replacement.
Place the turbo on its pedestal, DO NOT put the turbo-to-pedestal bolts in yet.
Do not even hang the down-pipe on the turbo if you can help it. (big exhaust downpipe off the turbo, not the y-pipe)
Have the marmon clamp hanging on the back of the turbo, but NOT on the inlet flange (inlet is where the y-pipe attaches).
You MUST get the y-pipe-to-turbo connection PERFECTLY aligned before putting the marmon clamp on. Don't let the y-pipe move as you install the marmon clamp. Believe it or not this step will probably be as difficult as anything else you do with this whole job. Being careful and methodical in this step will save you from having to take it all apart again when it leaks, and it will if not installed properly. The marmon clamp is designed to hold the connection together and it will NOT pull the pipes together if misaligned. If you are not careful and do not do this step carefully, you not only risk having to take it all apart to fix it, you may also stretch the expansion joints on your y-pipe. Do that and you will have to take it apart again and replace the y-pipe. Again, don't ask me how I know this......
Once the y-pipe is on correctly, tighten the bolts on the manifold end of the pipe, install the turbo bolts and everything else, properly torque each bolt to spec, of course.

A short list of stuff that, if you haven't done them, you might as well do them now since it is apart:

Updated turbo oil drain tube
updated turbo oil supply line (no longer has the stainless steel section)
updated fuel pressure spring (it will be easy to get to now)
If you are contemplating installing the banjo bolts from the 6.4, now would be a little easier
Do you know which STC fitting you have? Known for failure if it is the stocker. Theres one here that you should SERIOUSLY consider installing. Do that and you will NEVER worry about that fitting again. Its short money and install isn't too bad since your in that deep already.

Sorry for getting long winded, and you might have known most of this, but someone else may need this info.
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Mounty has you covered:thumbsup:
The only thing i would do is flush the coolant and clean the cooling system with the VC-9 cleaner before you tear it apart. The cleaning can help clog your oil cooler so do it 1st and just clog up your bad cooler.
Okay so how difficult is the oil cooler and egr delete to do myself. This is the first real job i am taking on for my f250 and my warranty is out so thats the reason. lol. Any other ideas for things i may need to be careful of and i have read alot of people have a tuner but i dont. will i need one for this.

Thanks.
Also. Do any of you have a service or repair manual in a pdf i can get. I dont really have the money to run out and get one or if you know where i can find one so i can get all the torque specs.
www.eautorepair.net
cost about 35 bucks a year and will give you all the information you could ever want about your truck.
I have 2 pdf files that may interest you, one is intake manifold removal/installation and the other is oil cooler removal/replacement. To begin the oil cooler replacement, the first line simply says "remove intake manifold" like it is nothing, so these two go together.
For your EGR cooler delete, you will already be holding the EGR cooler in your hand when you take the intake manifold off, you will just put different parts on from there. Easy beans. The tough part is in my post above talking about getting all the pipes lined up, and the consequences of not doing so will be you get to take it all apart again and do it again.
EDIT: post your e-mail addy, I can send those 2 pdf's to you if your interested.
Thinking about it, you may want the turbocharger removal/install pdf as well, if its your first time in.
Thanks alot for the help. addy is [email protected].

also do i need a tuner. i noticed alot of people have them but i am only doing the egr delete kit.
Sometimes (from what I understand) the EGR delete will throw a code, but thats it. It won't go into limp mode or run badly. I too am contemplating doing the EGR delete myself. I already have an SCT and have been running the truck with the EGR valve turned off since October 2010. A tuner will cost you between $350-$800 so if cash is tight I'd consider dealing with the CEL for a little while. If you do get a tuner get a SCT with custom tunes. They are the safest for your truck and if you're droppin' the coin for a tuner, I'd at least buy one that I could enjoy.
Thanks alot for the help. addy is [email protected]
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Exmounty you are a good and patient man.
Exmounty you are a good and patient man.
My wife would tend to disagree with you about the patient part. She has seen me navigate the streets around here. :lol:
To put the delete in, just connect the rubber hose where the other one was, then just slide the u-pipe into the other end. The end of the egr delete pipe that has an o-ring on it pushes into the bottom of the intake. How that is held into place depends on the kit you purchased, but I believe that there will be a flat oval piece of aluminum that is slotted and has 2 drilled/tapped holes in it. The slot cut out of that piece goes around the u-pipe you just installed into the intake, the gasket side of that aluminum piece goes toward the intake. The two bolts come in from the top of the intake near where the EGR valve is. Thread those through the aluminum piece. Your done installing your EGR delete, except for installing the new up-pipe.
When you do this step, I will caution you that there is a metal gasket between the y-pipe that comes off the turbo and the new pipe you are going to install. Don't forget to put that in there. It will leak if you don't, don't ask how I know this.
Tighten the two bolts that hold your new up-pipe to the y-pipe.
LOOSELY install two bolts through the exhaust manifold on the passenger side.
Finish all the other stuff as far as re-installing the intake from you oil cooler replacement.
Place the turbo on its pedestal, DO NOT put the turbo-to-pedestal bolts in yet.
Do not even hang the down-pipe on the turbo if you can help it. (big exhaust downpipe off the turbo, not the y-pipe)
Have the marmon clamp hanging on the back of the turbo, but NOT on the inlet flange (inlet is where the y-pipe attaches).
You MUST get the y-pipe-to-turbo connection PERFECTLY aligned before putting the marmon clamp on. Don't let the y-pipe move as you install the marmon clamp. Believe it or not this step will probably be as difficult as anything else you do with this whole job. Being careful and methodical in this step will save you from having to take it all apart again when it leaks, and it will if not installed properly. The marmon clamp is designed to hold the connection together and it will NOT pull the pipes together if misaligned. If you are not careful and do not do this step carefully, you not only risk having to take it all apart to fix it, you may also stretch the expansion joints on your y-pipe. Do that and you will have to take it apart again and replace the y-pipe. Again, don't ask me how I know this......
Once the y-pipe is on correctly, tighten the bolts on the manifold end of the pipe, install the turbo bolts and everything else, properly torque each bolt to spec, of course.
Nice! You ought to condense this and add it to your sig. :lol:
Nice! You ought to condense this and add it to your sig. :lol:
LOL, any suggestion how to do it?
Looking at it closer, there's not a lot of fluff to condense. I like it just like it is. Maybe add a whimsical title? Put the list in a bullet type format. Lots of good advice from real world experience. :thumbsup:

Maybe something like --
Reinstalling Turbo & Pipes in an Impossibly Small Place w/to Few Hands -- Words to Live By :lol:

Probably a little lengthy for a sig, though.
Looking at it closer, there's not a lot of fluff to condense. I like it just like it is. Maybe add a whimsical title? Put the list in a bullet type format. Lots of good advice from real world experience. :thumbsup:

Maybe something like --
Reinstalling Turbo & Pipes in an Impossibly Small Place w/to Few Hands -- Words to Live By :lol:

Probably a little lengthy for a sig, though.
LOL, nice title, a tad too wordy for my taste though.
How about just a link to this thread in my sig?
I could have it linked with "so, you wanna do your own EGR delete and up-pipe?"

EDIT: OOO I'm sportin my new sig lmfao
Sweeeeet! I likey! :lol: Now I'll be able to find it later this year when I do my delete.
I am new to the board. In searching, this thread seems to have some information I can use, but have a few questions. I have a 2003 F350 Crew Cab Super Duty 4x4 with the 6.0. The extended warranty is about up so there are several things that I am contimplating but need some advice.

This truck is my daily driver. Very, very rarely I may pull something that is heavy, but I mostly haul around 3 kids! I do not need it to go super fast and I do not need super torque or power. I am basically trying to just get the most life out of the truck/motor and the best mileage possible.

I am interested in adding or modifying:

SCT Programmer
Upgraded oil cooler
Upgraded ERG cooler or delete.
Maybe the ARP headbolt upgrade.
Maybe upgraded turbo.

What else is there?

Also, I have been looking at some vendors, but who do you trust to supply you with parts and service AFTER the sale?
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I am new to the board. In searching, this thread seems to have some information I can use, but have a few questions. I have a 2003 F350 Crew Cab Super Duty 4x4 with the 6.0. The extended warranty is about up so there are several things that I am contimplating but need some advice.

This truck is my daily driver. Very, very rarely I may pull something that is heavy, but I mostly haul around 3 kids! I do not need it to go super fast and I do not need super torque or power. I am basically trying to just get the most life out of the truck/motor and the best mileage possible.

I am interested in adding or modifying:

SCT Programmer
Upgraded oil cooler
Upgraded ERG cooler or delete.
Maybe the ARP headbolt upgrade.
Maybe upgraded turbo.

What else is there?

Also, I have been looking at some vendors, but who do you trust to supply you with parts and service AFTER the sale?
If you want longevity, leave it stock. Don't add power/torque/bigger turbo/bigger injectors. Leave it the way it is.

Upgraded oil cooler? This is where you leave it FORD. The "high flow" oil cooler that is out there sacrifices heat transfer to gain flow. You WILL have higher oil temps. Unless you mean the bulletproof diesel oil cooler system which removes the oil cooler from within the engine.
ARP's are not a cheap "upgrade". Upgrade, yes. Are they needed, not necessarily. Maintain the truck meticulously and you will not need them.
IF you add thhe tuner, RESIST the temptation to load a hot tune "just to see what ity can do". Keep the tunes mild and the truck will take it without any headgasket issues. MILD is the key word.
You do not need a bigger turbo. Cross it off.
With all this said, may I suggest that you read the other link in my sig? The "basic info" link. Read post #2 in that thread.
Excellent info there.

EDIT: There is but one place I go for Ford Factory parts, Tousley Ford. If you ever need anything FORD, they are it. Great bunch of guys that know their stuff. If you call and have the last 8 of the VIN, they can find whatever you need. Put it this way, I live in NY City, they are out in Minnesota. 'Nuff said?
Tousley Ford Parts Depot: 1-800-328-9552
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I would add that if you do get a tuner, you only get a SCT or Edge Gryphon that will accept custom tunes. The Superchips and Bully Dog tuners will hurt your truck. Custom tunes only, even if you do the ARP's.
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